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From: Wagner

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Date: 9/22/2025 6:05:26 AM
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It's time to decide colors of medals which teams will receive on HGL Season 2, and Playoff-post (here: (327517.7)) has once again been updated.

4 remaining teams (as an obvious reminder, also teams that lost their semifinals yesterday!), please proceed in organizing Final and Bronze matches as soon as possible!


Sunday September 28th matches below, home team name bolded (as there's still problems with bolded text in Playoff-post):

Final:
VPO vs. HAD

Bronze match:
HB vs. RAJ

From: Wagner

To: MrJ
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Date: 9/22/2025 6:38:50 AM
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After careful consideration, I am withdrawing from the HGL.

I wish all HGL teams well this season and into the future.

I hope the HGL continues to thrive.

MrJ


Unfortunate news, but it's your call, so what can I do but wish you best of luck with your HG project and add, that you're welcome to HGL at later seasons, should it suit your plans.

***EDIT:
Now that I read part of my message again, "being selected to play in HGL" or "current league restrictions" might leave also a bit of a wrong impression while technically being correct and neutral. (However, it often mixes up things if you take things out of context, and things/replies are necessary to be considered as a whole).
So I think I do get what you mean by being open league (which HGL as it's heart is), but I guess I used "selected" also because so far that has been the case (as we/I have selected teams according to their 'applications'/announce of interest, and based on their commitment on following league rules), so they have practically 'walked into the league' which to me shouts 'an open league'.
And I used "current league restrictions" as there are currently sensible maximum amount of teams that is 'a soft ceiling' (due to radical increase in match numbers, as I presented in earlier post; and in most radical cases, token usage demands as well could in practice be restricting league sizes).
I do remind, that there aren't more willing candidates currently that we could accept for instance for Season 3 so there's actually not any problem currently. And I do underline word current on both this and older post. I also recognize, as mentioned before, that it's good to think of these scenarios beforehand and have some discussion on them now and then.
END OF AN EDIT***


Based on this information I edited "Updateable listing of HGL teams/managers that have confirmed their willingness to participate for Season 2 of HGL"-post (here: (327516.86).

In that post I keep on following teams that have given confirmation on their current (and some teams also next seasons) participation, and also keep a list of teams who have let me know they will/might participate in HGL sometimes in the future (but haven't decided yet on which season that will/might happen).

So from that post we can conclude, that now that MrJ decided to step out of HGL Season 3,
we will most likely have 16 participants also on HGL Season 3.

This would mean that we could re-use the schedule from Season 1 and Season 2, as there's no change in total number of teams.


@ all managers, please note:

HGL Season 3 preparations (including match organizing process, into which all HGL teams will participate!) will start somewhat soon, so please be prepared for it. Exact time is not yet set in stone, but it will be close to when quarter-finals and semifinals are played in your "regular BB-league"
(and that´ll be quite soon, as there's only 2 matches left in BB regular season like you all have noticed).

Please let me know as soon as possible, if you can't use as many tokens for Season 3 Regular Season match organizing process as you've used on Season 1 and Season 2 match organizing processes, so I can try to change some of the Pickup match challenge responsibilities (to reduce token usage demands of some teams) if really needed.

Example: your team has had the obligation to send 12 match challenges (which requires usage of 12 tokens if done correctly for the first time) on previous HGL Seasons. Unless I hear from you, I assume it's ok for your team to keep on using similar amount of tokens on Season 3 as well.

In other words:
If I won't get information from a manager, by a post on either of these two Official HGL Threads or by BBMail to me, I will assume that it's ok for him to use about as many tokens on Season 3 Regular Season match organizing process, as they have been using before.


Last edited by Wagner at 9/22/2025 7:27:01 AM

From: Wagner

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Date: 9/29/2025 5:32:37 AM
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Hadár:
Since I lost the first match against Virtus Portici, and on a neutral ground, I am not a favorite. Virtus Portici is playing at home now, so from my point of view I am a clear outsider. I can only surprise. Which will be difficult, because I feel that the opponent has a better team. But I will not give up.....

Wagner:
What a dramatic Championship match we had on Season 2! Hadár's Svätý Jur Snakers still led the game after 4th quarter, and match was tied 6 minutes before the final whistle, but then something happened (no foul outs or injuries, though), and for example an 8 point difference for the advantage of Virtus Portici when there were 55 seconds left on the game clock was enough to secure first ever HGL Gold Medal to SventraCanestri, as HAD wasn't able to nail down last minute prayers to come back to fight for the win, and VPO was nearly perfect (18 out of 20) from the free throw line throughout the match.

So winning 4th quarter in a dramatic fashion, 32-13, guaranteed Virtus Portici a victory.
Both teams interestingly chose exactly same tactics, without guessing opponent tactics...

So congratulations for SventraCanestri for winning a championship, and for Hadár for putting up a very respectable fight in a Final on an away court!

As for Bronze medal match, in the light of points on the scoreboard, Rajdersi seemed to have an upper hand throughout the whole match, and also entering 4th quarter with 11 point lead. Hårdboll delivered bunch of assists (27) while keeping turnovers at a minimum (3), creating a spectacular 9:1 assist to turnover-ratio for them. They were also perfect (18 out of 18) from the charity stripe, but those impressive numbers weren't able to secure a medal for them despite playing in front of 3425 of their fans in their home court, Tufft område.

On the box score the biggest difference between these two teams were, that Hårdboll (apart from free throws) had a lot colder shooting night, and Rajdersi was for instance able to score 33 point behind the 3 point arc (with 50% accuracy), while limiting Hårdboll to 12 (25%). Unless I'm totally mistaken, this was also the first ever time when lower ranked (read: away) team was able to win a HGL Playoff match, so that's another mark in the 'HGL history books'.

So congratulations also to Paul George for a first ever HGL medal for their team Rajdersi, and for Poland!
And well done Spela, it's excellent achievement to become a runner-up in a Medal match even though it might not feel like it currently.

We'll start preparations for HGL Season 3 relatively soon, so please keep on following both Official HGL Threads (main and scores-threads)!


Last edited by Wagner at 9/29/2025 5:48:55 AM

From: Hadár
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Date: 10/2/2025 2:02:25 PM
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My player is MVP in Division I

From: Spela

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Date: 10/2/2025 3:36:01 PM
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Nice text!

From: LennuK.

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Date: 10/3/2025 6:01:26 AM
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Köplased
Nice achievement, congrats!

Too bad that your road in the playoffs already ended though, but there's always the next season

Last edited by LennuK. at 10/3/2025 6:02:57 AM

From: Wagner

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Date: 10/3/2025 6:30:21 AM
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My player is MVP in Division I (trophy) (party)

Wow, that's an excellent achievement, congratulations!
I think we all in HGL have experienced what Adrián Kubinaň can (and will, even if we try to stop him) do to destroy us. :D
From your round after round highest achievements-compilation I think I can trust my memory with this one, that Kubinaň has had by far the most "highest match rating" (or what the actual term was, but you get the point) wins throughout these 2 HGL seasons (please correct me if I'm wrong).

Last edited by Wagner at 10/3/2025 6:30:56 AM

From: Wagner

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Date: 10/3/2025 6:52:21 AM
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Nice text!

Thanks Spela, I sometimes try to make little match reports from selected matches if I have time, even though content-wise they're quite obvious (meaning in this case that this same information could be found by anyone just checking out the box score). Unfortunately I don't often have time for those (especially as I'm having challenges to find time for BB currently), as there are lots of other tasks involved.

Of course, if anyone else is willing to make such match previews of match reports, please do, by all means. I find them entertaining read. On Season 1 some AI-assisted match reports were being released by T-Lit (Buckner Bandits), and I found them interesting as well. So if you're into AI, please feel free to continue something that T-Lit initially started in HGL.

@ again everyone of us 16, who have confirmed their participation to Season 3, here: (327516.86) (including new team Vilniaus „Vilkai“), HGL Season 3 preparations are going to start soon.

I do assume that everybody that have confirmed their participation on above message, will participate as I haven't heard anything from anyone.

As you all know, this process will include match organizing process (sending and accepting Pickup (PU) match offers based on Season 3 schedule).


Schedule for Season 3 hasn't been yet created, but I will use the same schedule for Season 3 as we've had on Seasons 1 and 2 (with obvious changes of team names, as some teams have left HGL).
On Season 3 schedule Vilniaus „Vilkai“ (kecal) will replace Swan River Serpents (MrJ).

Please note everybody:
This is your absolute last chance to let me know if you have problems using as many (or about as many) tokens for PU match organizing, as you have been using during Seasons 1 and 2.
If nobody sends me reply on this Official Thread or by BBMail, I will assume same teams accept being volunteers as on Season 2, and will have responsibility to send more challenges.


You all know how many challenge responsibilities you had, but "challenging volunteers" (who were willing to use more than average tokens for match organizing) for Season 2 were:
1. Wagner College
2. Rajdersi
3. Lielupes Melnas Sirdis
4. Trouville BBC
5. Svätý Jur Snakers
6. Elan Demars
7. WiMaOlCa

Theoretically I'd be willing to challenge on all 15 matches (like BC Eos as well) but I had already 12 (and BC Eos 13) challenges so that wouldn't make a big difference (if I'd change all 15 challenge responsibilities for both of us).

However, if someone feels it's critical for them, let me know ASAP if your amounts of tokens is too limited compared to your Season 3 challenge responsibilities. (I have asked about this already weeks ago, and I haven't heard of anyone complaining of their lack of tokens).



Last edited by Wagner at 10/3/2025 7:13:47 AM

From: Hadár

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Date: 10/3/2025 12:45:01 PM
Svätý Jur Snakers
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Thank you.

I can't realistically win the 1st division. I would have to have a lot more quality players at 2 positions.

From: Hadár

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Date: 10/3/2025 12:45:30 PM
Svätý Jur Snakers
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You're right.

From: Hadár

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Date: 10/3/2025 12:47:34 PM
Svätý Jur Snakers
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Theoretically I'd be willing to challenge on all 15 matches (like BC Eos as well) but I had already 12 (and BC Eos 13) challenges so that wouldn't make a big difference (if I'd change all 15 challenge responsibilities for both of us).


I can send 15 challenges without any problems. And I'll be happy to do it

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