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284585.1
Date: 01/26/2017 16:05:05
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I have a doubt about a behaviour becoming more and more popular among many managers. They simply put on the market all or almost all of their players asking for a price much higher than the range provided by the player infos, always higher (200k or more) than what a medium experienced manager would pay for the player. And once out of ten (my guess) they can find a buyer.

I know that sometimes those transfers may be adjusted by the GMs, but the question is if such a behaviour is considered cleverness or cheating?

Just to be clear, I'm not asking for opinions, I have mine and we can discuss in the general forum later, I'm simply curious to know wether this is "legal" or not by a GM or BB. Then maybe we can open a discussion about the matter.

thank you in advance!



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284585.3 in reply to 284585.2
Date: 01/27/2017 02:19:51
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Thank you
I accept this as a rule, though I do not understand it 😀

Maybe will open a debate in global

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284585.5 in reply to 284585.1
Date: 01/27/2017 04:32:09
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You mess up your fan survey though.

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284585.6 in reply to 284585.4
Date: 01/27/2017 04:41:33
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you are right, but I've been playing since season 3rd so I'm confident enough while looking at some starting prices (not achieved after a bid war) to say they are too high.

For the same reasons you said, it is hard (and rare) to see those transfers adjusted or fined.

The issue is about this becoming a new game strategy, alternative to the day-trading (no more profitable), that we can call "statistic trading" or "dumbness trading".

I'm not discussing the actual way you manage such cases, but would like to try and make some proposal for improving the game experience fo those who feel somewhat cheated by users that build their economical strenght on the chance of many overrated transfers which are difficult to be noticed.

I mean, if someone has constantly more than 5 players on the market at overrated prices trying to sell them until they find some newbie or careless user can't we consider this as "attempted cheating"? or at least find some new rule such as maximum of 3 players on the market and never less than 8 players in the roster?

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284585.7 in reply to 284585.6
Date: 01/27/2017 04:56:17
Dynamo J. Hradec
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Or there should be some person to control all starting prices of players before adding on the market to avoid unexperienced players to get some experience. Or the starting price of all players would be 0 when added on TL. No overpriced transfers any more, problem solved.

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284585.8 in reply to 284585.6
Date: 01/28/2017 03:21:09
Tbilisi Mavericks
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Absolutely agree with your idea. Usually the difference between the starting asking price and the price you think would be adequate isnt that much, ranging from 500K to maybe 1.5-2 million, but still, those prices arent adequate and people still manage profit from this type of sales. Usually, those are 26-30 yrs old, either 40-50k sfs around 100-110skil points, or 100K+ one dimensional high skill players. This might not be a regular case on everyday market, but not very seldom one can see this type of transfers to be accomplished..

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284585.9 in reply to 284585.8
Date: 01/28/2017 04:32:50
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I wonder if you can move this in global, so we can go on with opinions and proposal, the helping question is solved, it's legal
thanks

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284585.11 in reply to 284585.7
Date: 01/28/2017 14:14:22
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My experiences with auctions has been: If no one bids at what the auction believes the minimum price to be, it either gets lowered on its own until a bid occurs. Or the auction straight up repossesses it themselves.

So, I guess 2 ideas come from that:
Listed players not bought at their price listing get automatically re-listed for half of what they were listed before
or
Listed players that do not receive any bids become FAs

Neither of those sound particularly appealing.