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From: Isaiah

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275427.10 in reply to 275427.1
Date: 12/02/2015 08:35:15
Smallfries
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Do these bigs have good driving as well?

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275427.11 in reply to 275427.8
Date: 12/02/2015 15:17:38
white snake
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Currently I'm working to get back to the second div. So I can't compair my players to your high level yet.

I have also two bigs with PA 15+. But my team is build exactly the other way round. I'm running with an outside team, a bunch of high SBer (could set up a S5 with SB 10+ without any problems) and low scoring (opponents FG% this season: 27%). My two best assist players are my two bigs. One has 5.5 ast/game and the other one 4.2 ast/game. Thanks to SB I don't need a lot of RB. My best guy has RB 9 and my team still manages to end up at second place for rebounds.

But back to the topic. PA on bigs and outside offenses work pretty well. For the bigs there is less pressure from this crippeled OD <5 bigs. So they have a very easy passing route. From this the guards benefit also, because they receive high quality passes which influences their possible FG%. Thanks to these passes it's harder to defend the guards and for me, I can play with a small salary team. As long as I can keep my opponents under 60 pts, everything is safe "60 wins"

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275427.12 in reply to 275427.11
Date: 12/02/2015 19:12:06
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Nachtmahr, I have long followed what you say about shot blocking. But one thing here has me puzzled:
Thanks to SB I don't need a lot of RB. My best guy has RB 9 and my team still manages to end up at second place for rebounds.
Isn't every blocked shot still rebounded? Blocks don't reduce the # of rebounds. For every shot your opponent misses, there is 1.00 rebounds. For every shot your opponent has blocked there is 1.00 rebounds. 1.00 = 1.00

Thanks.

Last edited by Mike Franks at 12/02/2015 19:18:02

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275427.14 in reply to 275427.13
Date: 12/03/2015 00:02:42
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I think he means his SB lowers opponent shot %, making more chances to defense rebound ...
I would like to hear Nachtmahr's thinking, but the point you make, that opponent's shot % is even lower when there are a lot of blocked shots would argue that rebounding was more important, not less.

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275427.16 in reply to 275427.14
Date: 12/03/2015 00:54:18
Woodbridge Wreckers
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The thinking is if you can just keep blocking until you get the rebound. If the opponent has 10 extra possesions because of rebounds advantage but you block/alter 15 extra shots you have 5 FGM less against you.

It's easy to say higher rebounding is better, of course it is but to have higher SB you need to compromise somewhere. It's always the question wether it's worth to give up X to get more Y, and in Nachtmar's case it is. You can make another case in which you sacrifice a bit of IS for the higher SB and keep RB the same, because if your bigs have high PA you still have a decent flow, or you could sac some ID, or a little bit of 2/3 skills.

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275427.17 in reply to 275427.12
Date: 12/03/2015 05:42:51
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For every shot your opponent misses, there is 1.00 rebounds. For every shot your opponent has blocked there is 1.00 rebounds. 1.00 = 1.00


I think some blocked shots end up out of bounds - but I am not sure, as I don't follow the games due to technical issues (no flash)

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275427.19 in reply to 275427.16
Date: 12/03/2015 06:53:16
white snake
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Yes, that's it. I'm sacraficing RB because I know that my players are superior in defense. I have the second worst OR team, but the best defense RB team. They just keep blocking and altering shots until one of them gets the RB.
Because of this I have less FG attempts, so I have to optimize my offense. And for that I use PA.
This season I had less FG attempts than my opponent in every game. The result is 532:597 attempts. But I made 558 pts and got only 424. That's 1.05 pts/FG attempt vs. 0.71 pts/FG attempt. So as long as my team can hold the others to a certain low scoring, there are no problems with sacraficing RB. I just have to use the other skills ;)

Last edited by Nachtmahr at 12/03/2015 06:54:12

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