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From: мaтт
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Date: 04/08/2010 14:04:02
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In this thread, in some moments of the season, I'll write a ranking of the best players picked from the last Draft. I will do it for the players of each role.

However this thread is also open for the comunication among U21 scouts and players' managers, so all these people can write here! (or better still, it'll be a very good thing) :P

I hope in a good growth of these players, so let me advise these players' managers that if them DON'T TRAIN these players THEY CAN SELL THEM. These players have a high value of trading and a great future. This solution could be the better solution for Ireland and the players' teams ;)



TOP 5


Playmakers:

1) David MacAuley (13565287) of blazin bulls
2) David Grogan (13565411) of gongo aso
3) William Cummins (13565049) of Kick Ass Angels
4) Jamie Heighway (13565088) of Brady Street Ballers
5) Ben Duffy (13565205) of Dubliners


Guards:

1) Marshall Duff (13565041) of BOT!
2) Drake Cantwell (13565102) of Bc ozolins
3) Edgar McGee (13565212) of Hendrix Vibrations
4) David Feeney (13565040) of Soho Team B.C.
5) Mark Johnson (13565145) of Cork Bulls


Small Forwards:

1) Darren Jennings (13565274) of Conquisto Stamede
2) Pat Garvey (13050972) of caiowizard
3) Steven Scully (13565198) of Traktor-Team
4) Paul Sheehan (12148102) of the dubliners 26
5) Jackson Fields (13565099) of TK Anwil Wloclawek


Power Forwards:

1) Senan MacManus (13565094) of CanReg
2) David Phelan (13565138) of K-Sharks
3) Waild Heffernan (13565086) of Casletown
4) Setanta Kelliher (13565292) of BOT!
5) Bay Field (12148314) of mayo magic


Centers:

1) Larry Townsend (13565388) of gongo aso
2) James Osman (13565060) of Azure Athletic
3) Peter Daniels (13921095) of geevagh
4) Daniel Atkins (13565391) of gongo aso
5) Terry Breen (13565130) of Hefajstosy





Last edited by мaтт at 05/22/2010 11:28:07

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139765.2 in reply to 139765.1
Date: 04/13/2010 06:33:26
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Hi all, i'm EESS71 scout for the Centers.

regarding them i only want to put the total skill level regarding the three primary skill for the centers (IS,RB, ID) to make you understand the great job we have to do.

1) Larry Townsend (13565388) 21
2) James Osman (13565060) 21
3) Peter Daniels (13921095) 18
4) Daniel Atkins (13565292) 19
5) Terry Breen (13565130) 18

our best U21 centers (i'm not looking at the PF) at this moment are 21 y.o. and have a total skill level of 33 (at the last version of the database).
just to make you understand a 33 level is to reach at the beginning of 20 y.o.
My player Flamini is one of the best ten young centers in Italy and has now 34. There are player of 38-39 also!
to become competitive we have an hard work for the next two/three seasons.
i want to thanks all the managers that have send to me a bbmail with the pops and the program training of their young players.
For any question feel free to write in the forum or a bbmail.




From: мaтт
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139765.3 in reply to 139765.2
Date: 05/06/2010 11:12:40
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I'm glad to see that there are lots of managers who train their players very well. They're also contacting my scouts every week for the updates. I want to thank them for their work. I'm quite sure that they will have a great future with their own squad because only training well in this game you can win and enjoy yourself.

Anyway there are also bad news to say. Most players are no trained. I can't understand this strategy..If you don't belive in a players why don't you sell him???It's very sad to see great players grow old not trained :(

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Date: 05/17/2010 10:47:17
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Hi all , some news regarding the young players we are observing.
As matt said before a lot of players are not trained, this is a pity ..really.

fortunatly we have also some good trainers !!

These are the best 18 y.o. players playing as Centers

Name Surname ID Age height
James Osman 13565060 18 206 REALLY WELL TRAINED , great potential !!
Larry Townsend 13565388 18 206 Trained ?
Daniel Atkins 13565391 18 203 Trained?
Terry Breen 13565130 18 208 Now finally on the market , a lot of time wasted.
Peter Daniels 13921095 18 211 Not trained .


Here also the best 19 y.o. Centers

Name Surname ID Age height Role
Robert Fallon 12723944 19 218 C WELL TRAINED
Shaun Mulligan 12148200 19 216 C WELL TRAINED
Gavan Redmond 12148126 19 208 C TRAINED
Finbarr O'Donnell 13002352 19 201 C WELL TRAINED
Patrick McEvoy 12147986 19 208 C trained?



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139765.5 in reply to 139765.4
Date: 05/19/2010 18:39:17
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Well it's great to see we are developing some talents, but I must say it's disappointing to hear that a lot of our U-21 players are not trained.

Every Irish manager should really train specific area/s, try to draft players to go with their training area, sell those other talents they don't train so they can reinvest money into their squad, and only by foreign players in areas you don't train (unless you want a cheap reserve in case players get injured)

It's good to see we are developing good centres, an area which I believe Matt said we were lacking in, but it's disappointing that so many of our 18 talents in this area are not trained. The early years are so important to a player.

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Date: 05/20/2010 04:09:42
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Tom you are right !!
also you have explained a right way of developing not only the U21 national team, but your team also!!!
i think that in 2-3 years you'll be one of the most strong irish team. and this cause you are training in the right way.

I hope some others irish mangers will follow you .

i want also to underline this
The early years are so important to a player

if we lost the first years of training , after a great young player won't be able to achieve his potential.
So it's very important what we are trying to make understand to all irish community,

if you have young players that you are not going to train, sell them! It's good especially for your team, cause your player is losing value each week ...

by the way, train train train :D Single position !!! :D

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Date: 05/20/2010 11:29:01
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Well it's great to see we are developing some talents, but I must say it's disappointing to hear that a lot of our U-21 players are not trained.

Every Irish manager should really train specific area/s, try to draft players to go with their training area, sell those other talents they don't train so they can reinvest money into their squad, and only by foreign players in areas you don't train (unless you want a cheap reserve in case players get injured)

It's good to see we are developing good centres, an area which I believe Matt said we were lacking in, but it's disappointing that so many of our 18 talents in this area are not trained. The early years are so important to a player.


well told Tom!! :D

Anyway EESS71 is making an amazing work and, to be honest, there are several users (like you) who train in the best way their players . Instead I'm afraid there are not enough well-trainers for point guards and shooting guards, but I hope to be wrong :(

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Date: 05/20/2010 19:39:54
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Yeah Matt, even in my own division I see an 18yo PG with Superstar potential who hasn't played one minute all season. Could have been a great player if trained :(

Hopefully we can get some good guard trainers.

And yes EESS71 is doing a great job! Hopefully I'll have some good news for him 2omorow. :)

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Date: 06/22/2010 13:02:33
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just a quick summary about the growth of the young irish Centers.

we left with this situation

18 y.o.
Name Surname ID Age height
James Osman 13565060 18 206 REALLY WELL TRAINED , great potential !!
Larry Townsend 13565388 18 206 Trained ? NOT TRAINED, the coach do not respond to our bbmail
Daniel Atkins 13565391 18 203 Trained? NOT TRAINED, the coach do not respond to our bbmail
Terry Breen 13565130 18 208 Now finally on the market , a lot of time wasted. nowTRAINED from a good manager
Peter Daniels 13921095 18 211 Not trained . after being sold nowTRAINED from a good manager
Ivan Whitaker new entry (great matt discovery!!) , well trained is now at 27 in primary skills, good JS ! low potential.
Here also the best 19 y.o. Centers
Name Surname ID Age height Role
Robert Fallon 12723944 19 218 C WELL TRAINED
Shaun Mulligan 12148200 19 216 C WELL TRAINED
Gavan Redmond 12148126 19 208 C TRAINED , NOT MORE TRAINED why ?
Finbarr O'Donnell 13002352 19 201 C WELL TRAINED
Patrick McEvoy 12147986 19 208 C trained? NOT TRAINED


as you can see we have NO 20 y.o. centers..... it's important to say that right now the best 21 y.o. center has 33 in total
in the primary skills.
Our best 19 y.o. player has now 31 ! So he is much much stronger as a player but , right now we are a little under
the present situation... but more more better we will be at the end of 21th year of the actual 19y.o. players.

More ...our 18 y.o. best players are now 27 ! As you can see with one year more of good train the'll be at least 34 (better of our present 19 y.o. - even better of our 21 y.o.!!!)

BUT ..... we can count only on 2-3 player for year, is too poor as situation. SO IT'S IMPORTANT not to loose any potential player at this draft.

if you pick a good player that you know you won't train ...sell him!!! Look at Townsend , at the beginning of this season his value was of 1,2-1,5 million € , now perhaps 6-700K. He is loosing value every day , cause not trained (we suppose... having no response from his coach)... we 'll be really happy of the opposite.

so selling a draftee you won't train is the best not only for the national team, but also and especially for your club!

for any question or comment , write on the forum or bbmail.

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139765.10 in reply to 139765.9
Date: 07/06/2010 05:32:49
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So, at this point we have added in the Database all the drafted players from last season. As soon as possible all owners of these players will be contacted by the U21 staff. Like the last season the work to do is quite simple, training training and training! :D

My staff and I would be happy to help you with advice about what kind of skills would be better train or, why not, make with you a training programm.

Now, let me show you quickly some of the best players who we have added..


1) Jonathon Sheehy (14986203) of Bomers
2) Barry Ó Daire (14986013) of Rampaging Marmots
3) Pearse Dowdall (14986054) of Dubliners
4) Michael Higgins (14986207) of sixers 76
5) Anto Farrelly (14986199) of Azure Athletic
6) John Mac Gabhann  (14986071) of mayo magic
7) Barry Garvey (14986233) of Kauno Bulls
8) Nigel O'Mahoney (14986228) of Azure Athletic
9) Dean O'Grady (14986005) of Bc Marijampole
9) Rick Barber (14986166) of Massive Stones

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139765.11 in reply to 139765.10
Date: 07/07/2010 07:49:56
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Good to see Barry on there, I'll try my best to make him a good player for your U21 team (and, possibly, your NT - his potential may limit him on that though).

Just let me know if you want anything in particular done!