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my guess is 4 week for the 1st pop, 5 weeks for the 2nd

interesting stuff, and pretty much puts the nail in the coffin of my plan to inside train a shorter guy.

yeah... noone will know the exact influence height has on training players that have the wrong size... However, I have noticed the same issues. I have 3 super guards. One is 2-3 inches higher than what people refer to as the perfect height. He gains OD skill at average 1 week slower per skill gained than my other 2 guys... Not deadly, but still I will take height very seriously in the future when picking my trainees...

Sorry. I was training 4 weeks IS (this is what i call 1st training) and 5 weeks ID (i call this 2nd training, cause it has just a smaller impact on IS).
But amazingly long, right?

Wow....training.....so....slow....

What is the "perfect" height?

Do you think that the outside shooting training is equally fast (or slow) both for wingmen and for PG/SG positions.

Sounds good

as i understand going for wingman is like training one position or tlaist like training ONE on ONE so it should be faster

im going to share this,

this whole season is almost at the end. and my training results

23 yrs old pg, 6'5 all star = 1 pop JS, i pop passing
22 yrs old pg , 6'2 pg all star = 2 pops JR , 1 pop passing , 1 pop JS
22 yrs old sg, 6'3 all star = 2 pops OD, i pop JS, 1 pop JR,
22 yrs ols, 5' 11 all star = i pop OD, 2 pops JR,

all execpt one 22 year old 6'3 played 48 minutes for training every week.

level 5 trainer.

Here are my results of training Pressure (PG/SG) for a few weeks (Trainer lvl: 5)
First the players' info (pot.=potental)
Name age pot. height
Alfred___19__8___6'5
Dariusz__20__6___6'0
Grzegorz_20__5___6'6
Radoslaw 22__7___6'3
Wilhelm__19__4___6'0
Rafal____19__2___6'9

The primary skill improvement: OD (arrow indicates a pop)
(table shows weeks training OD=Pressure and the minutes played by a player)

Training 1OD 2OD 3OD 4OD 5OD 6ST 7HN 8OD 9OD 10OD
Alfred___36__48↑_48__48__48↑_________48__48__48
Dariusz__48↑_48__48↑_48__48↑_________48__48__48↑
Grzegorz_48↑_28__35__19__36__________48__48↑_48
Radoslaw 40__48↑_36__48__48__________48↑_48__48
Wilhelm__36__48↑_39__48↑_48__________48__48↑_47
Rafal_____6___6___0___0___2__________48__44__44↑

7HN - all got 48min of training.

The secondary skill improvement:
Alfred: 9OD -pop in ID
Dariusz: 8OD -pop in ID, 7HN -pop in HN, 7HN -pop in DV
Grzegorz: 10HN -pop in DV
Radoslaw:
Wilhelm 1OD -pop in ID
Rafal: 2OD -pop in DV

Seems that hight has quite some influance on the speed of Pressure training.
6'0 players were poping almost every 2 weeks while for 6'5 player it takes around 3 weeks. I noticed that the potential doesn't influance the training until a certain skill level is reached. Seems like a player with a starter potential can easily reach 2-3 skills around prominent level without the potential slowing down the training.
Also the improvement of HN, DV and ID takes way more than 7-8 weeks to pop. I trained OS last season which also "trains" DV and HN as secondary skills and I only got pops this season. It seams that, at least in my case, the 7-8 weeks for DV and HN are more like a full season - 14-16 weeks.

So to conclude:

Pressure
PG/SG:
Trains OD @ 2-3 weeks
Trains ID @ 14-16 weeks
Trains HN @ 14-16 weeks
Trains DV @ 14-16 weeks

Hope that info helps;)
e: typo

Last edited by polskidude at 02/11/2009 08:08:57