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From: WFU03
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381.1
Date: 07/21/2007 22:11:03
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If you have any ideas, post them here or post your team's results here and we'll try to figure out some base ideas for each type.

Last week, I trained Free Throws and 7 out of 19 players popped. While they obviously could be high or low sublevels, based on that alone it would seem to take approximately 2.5 weeks for Free Throws. If anyone else has trained Free Throws, feel free to agree or disagree.

With as many users as there are now, it shouldn't take too long to figure this out.

All Guesses assume a Level 9/10 trainer and 18/19 year old trainee.
Stamina and Free Throws do NOT depend on trainer level.

Guesses:
Team Training
Form:
Trains Practice this week @ ?

Free Throws:
Trains FT @ 2 weeks

Stamina:
Trains ST @ 1-2 weeks

Pressure
PG:
Trains OD @ 2 weeks
Trains ID @ 8+
Trains HN @ 8+
Trains DV @ 8+

PG/SG:
Trains OD @ 3-4 weeks
Trains ID @ 14-16 weeks
Trains HN @ 14-16 weeks
Trains DV @ 14-16 weeks

PG/SG/SF:
Trains OD @ 4-5 weeks
Trains ID @ ?
Trains HN @ ?
Trains DV @ ?

Shotblocking
C:
Trains SB @ 1-2 weeks
Trains ID @ ?
Trains RB @ ?

C/PF:
Trains SB @ 2-3 weeks
Trains ID @ 7-8 weeks
Trains RB @ 7-8 weeks

C/PF/SF:
Trains SB @ ?
Trains ID @ ?
Trains RB @ ?

Inside Defense
C:
Trains ID @ 1-2 weeks
Trains IS @ ?
Trains SB @ ?

C/PF:
Trains ID @ 2-3 weeks
Trains IS @ 7-8 weeks
Trains SB @ 7-8 weeks

C/PF/SF:
Trains ID @ ?
Trains IS @ ?
Trains SB @ ?

Rebounding
C/PF:
Trains RB @ 1.75 weeks (~2.5 weeks for a 24 year old)
Trains ID @ 10 weeks
Trains IS @ 10 weeks

Team:
Trains RB @ ?
Trains ID @ ?
Trains IS @ ?

Inside Scoring
C:
Trains IS @ 1-2 weeks
Trains ID @ ?
Trains JS @ ?

C/PF:
Trains IS @ 2-3 weeks
Trains ID @ 7-8 weeks
Trains JS @ 7-8 weeks

C/PF/SF:
Trains IS @ ?
Trains ID @ ?
Trains JS @ ?

One on One
Guards:
Trains DV @ 2-3 weeks
Trains HN @ 3-4 weeks
Trains JS @ 3-4 weeks

Forwards:
Trains DV @ 1.8 weeks
Trains HN @ 2.3 weeks
Trains IS @ 4-5 weeks
Trains JS @ 4-5 weeks

Team:
Trains DV @ ?
Trains HN @ ?
Trains IS @ ?
Trains JS @ ?

Outside Shooting
SG:
Trains JR @ 2-3 weeks
Trains JS @ 4-6 weeks
Trains DV @ 7-8 weeks
Trains HN @ 7-8 weeks

With level 7 trainer:
Trains JR @ 2-3 weeks
Trains JS @ 4-6 weeks
Trains DV @ 8-9 weeks
Trains HN @ 8-9 weeks

PG/SG:
Trains JR @ 3-4 weeks
Trains JS @ 4-5 weeks
Trains DV @ ?
Trains HN @ ?

Team:
Trains JR @ ?
Trains JS @ ?
Trains DV @ ?
Trains HN @ ?

Jump Shot
Guards:
Trains JS @ 2-3 weeks
Trains JR @ 7-8 weeks
Trains HN @ 7-8 weeks
Trains DV @ 7-8 weeks

Forwards:
Trains JS @ 2-3 weeks
Trains JR @ 7-8 weeks
Trains IS @ 7-8 weeks

Wingmen:
Trains JS @ 2-3 weeks
Trains JR @ 7-8 weeks
Trains DV @ 7-8 weeks
Trains HN @ 7-8 weeks
Trians IS @ 7-8 weeks

Team:
Trains JS @ ?
Trains JR @ ?
Trains HN @ ?
Trains DV @ ?
Trains IS @ ?

Ball Handling
PG:
Trains HN @ 1-2 weeks
Trains DV @ ?
Trains OD @ ?

PG/SG:
Trains HN @ 2-3 weeks
Trains DV @ 3-4 weeks
Trains OD @ 7-8 weeks

PG/SG/SF:
Trains HN @ ?
Trains DV @ ?
Trains OD @ ?

Passing
PG:
Trains PS @ 1-2 weeks
Trains HN @ ?
Trains DV @ ?

PG/SG:
Trains PS @ 2-3 weeks
Trains HN @ 7-8 weeks
Trains DV @ 7-8 weeks

Team:
Trains PS @ ?
Trains HN @ ?
Trains DV @ ?

Misc notes:
From BBMark, "We do give taller player bumps in rebounding, and shorter players bumps in handling in terms of how fast they train for example"

From BBCharles, "Driving and handling are very, very similar skills, and training either one will now also result in about 80% of training on the other."

From BBDomenico, "I've been inspecting our code, and we don't have osmosis training."

If you wish to help, (381.937) is an excellent example of how to do so.

Continued at (78242.1)

Last edited by JohnnyB at 11/30/2010 17:19:33

From: Vaiflo

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381.2 in reply to 381.1
Date: 07/21/2007 22:39:09
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Hi, good idea ;)
I believe you're right about FT, and I think we can also guess that age of the player doesn't matter for that kind of training (similarly to hattrick, where this happens...), but we have to study also how age influences other tranings...
anyway, from next friday I'll try to follow my pops writing them, and then I'll post here when I'll have "something" :)

You can find other datas here :) (301.1)

Edited 7/21/2007 10:46:18 PM by Vaiflo

From: raonne

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Date: 07/21/2007 23:09:52
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You should check the second week of your free throw training. Cause I think it's probably like Stamina (the guys that are high will pop on the first week and all the rest will pop on the second week) that might be what happened in your FT training.

I'm training Jump Shot. So far:
Jump Shot Repectable -> Strong (19 years old, level 10 trainer, training PG/SG) = 5 weeks




Edited 7/22/2007 8:29:26 PM by GM-Raonne

From: SK-Arnau

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381.4 in reply to 381.3
Date: 07/22/2007 11:15:14
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Are the pops marked in some way in the roster page? Or we must track them?

From: Labude

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381.5 in reply to 381.1
Date: 07/22/2007 13:09:17
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Good idea, but you've to add how many positions are trained, e.g. inside defense for C, C/PF or C/PF/SF.

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381.7 in reply to 381.6
Date: 07/22/2007 15:48:44
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Hi guys!

I am a new member and would like some tips for how to train my team.
What would be more important to begin with......to train the whole team or separately?
When I am training for example only my Center for 5 weeks can the other players decrease in some skills because they are not training?

Thanks a lot for your help!

From: WFU03

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381.9 in reply to 381.5
Date: 07/22/2007 16:38:39
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I completely agree. I'll add more information as people start to post it in this thread. Everything so far is from info in this thread and the one linked here. I hope in a week or two that we'll have a pretty detailed list.

From: bull7

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381.10 in reply to 381.9
Date: 07/22/2007 17:13:22
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Ok thanks.
I also gorgot ask you about the training report. It is on friday right? But I didn't see anything on friday....Why?

And if for example I change my training on tuesday does it take into consideration the trainings on saturday, sunday, monday? Or does it depend on how you set your training each friday?

Thanks!

From: raonne
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381.11 in reply to 381.10
Date: 07/22/2007 20:31:21
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I edited my post cause yeah, i forgot to say i train PG and SG (in Jump Shot).

Anyway, there is no training reoprt here yet, only the little green arrows.

I believe that here is like in HT, the training type considered is the one set on the moment the update happens, not when the games are played.