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381.937 in reply to 381.936
Date: 02/11/2009 08:01:57
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Here are my results of training Pressure (PG/SG) for a few weeks (Trainer lvl: 5)
First the players' info (pot.=potental)
Name age pot. height
Alfred___19__8___6'5
Dariusz__20__6___6'0
Grzegorz_20__5___6'6
Radoslaw 22__7___6'3
Wilhelm__19__4___6'0
Rafal____19__2___6'9

The primary skill improvement: OD (arrow indicates a pop)
(table shows weeks training OD=Pressure and the minutes played by a player)

Training 1OD 2OD 3OD 4OD 5OD 6ST 7HN 8OD 9OD 10OD
Alfred___36__48↑_48__48__48↑_________48__48__48
Dariusz__48↑_48__48↑_48__48↑_________48__48__48↑
Grzegorz_48↑_28__35__19__36__________48__48↑_48
Radoslaw 40__48↑_36__48__48__________48↑_48__48
Wilhelm__36__48↑_39__48↑_48__________48__48↑_47
Rafal_____6___6___0___0___2__________48__44__44↑

7HN - all got 48min of training.

The secondary skill improvement:
Alfred: 9OD -pop in ID
Dariusz: 8OD -pop in ID, 7HN -pop in HN, 7HN -pop in DV
Grzegorz: 10HN -pop in DV
Radoslaw:
Wilhelm 1OD -pop in ID
Rafal: 2OD -pop in DV

Seems that hight has quite some influance on the speed of Pressure training.
6'0 players were poping almost every 2 weeks while for 6'5 player it takes around 3 weeks. I noticed that the potential doesn't influance the training until a certain skill level is reached. Seems like a player with a starter potential can easily reach 2-3 skills around prominent level without the potential slowing down the training.
Also the improvement of HN, DV and ID takes way more than 7-8 weeks to pop. I trained OS last season which also "trains" DV and HN as secondary skills and I only got pops this season. It seams that, at least in my case, the 7-8 weeks for DV and HN are more like a full season - 14-16 weeks.

So to conclude:

Pressure
PG/SG:
Trains OD @ 2-3 weeks
Trains ID @ 14-16 weeks
Trains HN @ 14-16 weeks
Trains DV @ 14-16 weeks

Hope that info helps;)
e: typo

Last edited by polskidude at 02/11/2009 08:08:57

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381.938 in reply to 381.937
Date: 02/11/2009 10:38:52
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Thanks for the info!

This post was fantastic and exactly what this thread needs more of!

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Date: 02/11/2009 11:37:32
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It seems that most people don't submit correct data. If you really think my post is what the thread needs I think you could place a link at the first post to my info so that people could see the form in which submitted info is useful for this thread.
I'm glad I could help. Ill try submitting info from last season's OS training as well.

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60 more posts before we head to a new thread.

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Date: 02/11/2009 19:08:13
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some data from trining:
tr.level 4,type-one on one(team)

heigh age week1(pops) week2 week3 week4
player A 6.4 19 full(dr,hand) full full full(hand)
player B 6.8 21 full(hand) full full(dr) full
player c 6.7 21 40m(hand) full(driv) full full
player D 6.1 19 full(hand) full full full(hand,dr)
player E 6.4 19 full(hand) full(driv) full full
player F 6.4 18 full(driv) full full(hand) full(driv)
player G 6.9 20 full full(driv) full full(hand)
player H 7.1 19 full 28m 29m(driv) 32m
player I 7.1 20 full full full(driv,hand) full
player J 6.11 23 full full full(driv) full(hand)
player K 6.11 20 full full full full(driv)
player L 5.10 21 23m 10m 18m 29m(driv)

any comments?

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381.942 in reply to 381.941
Date: 02/11/2009 22:10:01
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ok here some data of an allstarpotentialplayer 55 weeks training 1 or 2 positions changed training nearly every week, trainerlevel 9 or 10 old 5 or 6 new, guardtraining, pops like this 7 <jumpShot> , 3<range>,4<outsideDef>,6<handling>,7 <driving>,5 <passing>1 <insideDef>,1 <stamina>, 34 total + 2 xp ,
he got lot of sub even in insideshot ^^


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Date: 02/12/2009 04:41:13
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Hello

Can someone tell me whats the difference between JS for PG/SG to SG/SF ?? (is there a difference in the trainning speed)

same question for Outside shooting

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Date: 02/12/2009 05:29:54
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Hello

Can someone tell me whats the difference between JS for PG/SG to SG/SF ?? (is there a difference in the trainning speed)

same question for Outside shooting


Guards:
Trains JS @ 2-3 weeks
Trains JR @ 7-8 weeks
Trains HN @ 7-8 weeks
Trains DV @ 7-8 weeks

Forwards:
Trains JS @ 2-3 weeks
Trains JR @ 7-8 weeks
Trains IS @ 7-8 weeks

Wingmen:
Trains JS @ 2-3 weeks
Trains JR @ 7-8 weeks
Trains DV @ 7-8 weeks
Trains HN @ 7-8 weeks
Trians IS @ 7-8 weeks

If you would just go to the first page you will see that SG/SF gets subtraining in JR.

You can look for the Outside Shooting yourself. Show some effort...

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381.945 in reply to 381.944
Date: 02/12/2009 05:37:29
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thanks - and I'll show some effort as soon as I'll know it (I've never trainned Outside shooting)

I am aware of the list you've sent, but it doesn't make sence that wingmen has an advantage over PG/SG. (Inside shot). I would think that if that is the case then PG/SG should get pops more often...

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381.946 in reply to 381.11
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i whoud be interested if any one know the speed for JR not JS for wingmans

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Wingmen:
Trains JS @ 2-3 weeks
Trains JR @ 7-8 weeks
Trains DV @ 7-8 weeks
Trains HN @ 7-8 weeks
Trians IS @ 7-8 weeks


i traines wingmen for mor than 8 week's
and not even once
their was a pop up in IS
so i can not agree with that
unless someone
can write it from his experience

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