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From: Stajan

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Date: 3/17/2011 11:32:06 PM
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Besides Pyzsczek you see nothing wrong? Aydin and Shani started the game. It is not common knowledge that the game manual is incorrect in saying that a sub pattern will be strictly followed when it's actually disregarded entirely (and not 2 minutes here and there like it probably is common knowledge, but over 100 minutes worth). I'd like to see the tally's of a global vote on that.

And the Pyzsczek not playing thing is a huge problem as it is. First of all, he's a trainee. And second of all, I only have 4 wing players covering 3 positions, and instead of a player getting approximately 60 minutes, which is perfect, he's at 93 minutes, which will hurt his game shape.

It will kill my promotion chances because 2 of my next 3 games are now losses and I'll finish 3rd without HCA (which is needed in most every DII). I will get destroyed inside next game with this horrible game shape.




Last edited by Stajan at 3/17/2011 11:33:36 PM

From: Stajan

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Date: 3/18/2011 12:16:21 AM
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Cazzola is incredibly more skilled than Rabaud (not Cadabing), particularly at point, so he should have started if it was based on skill.

And yeah, the sticky in the bugs forum did not help. I don't think (m)any users come into this forum searching for this issue prior to having the AI completely mess up their line up, and I don't think this happens very often, so I still disagree that it's common knowledge. But fair enough.

I wish I could at least be given walkover minutes based on the line up I used, but I guess that's not a possibility. You don't have to reply again. I'll deal with it. I've had many lucky moments this season and getting massacred here evens it out.

From: Fresh24

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Date: 3/18/2011 8:14:36 AM
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I had something similar happen to me, and that's why I was advocating earlier in this thread to make it known to folks there is a known bug where you can only guarantee the starters you select will start if you use 'strictly follow depth chart'. It's too bad that the discussions seem to be mainly had in the bugs forum, and people generally find out about it after it happens to them.

In all seriousness, we're currently aware of only one bug with regard to submitting tactics....


Do you mean beyond the bug stated in the 'known bugs' stickied post? I recently had another case of my back-up starting in this game (32343295). Although it seems by the link in the post that you are aware of it and will deal with it when you do an overhaul of the GE, which I'm totally fine with, but people should be made aware to use 'strictly follow depth chart' to avoid those cases.


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Date: 3/20/2011 6:18:45 AM
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I see you already discussed this subject with another user, so I'll respond directly to you.
Today, I played TIE and my enthusiasm went from 7 to only 8. How do you explain that? I have been playing this game for quite some time now, and that just doesn't seem right. Something is definitely wrong with the way game engine calculates enthusiasm lately.
Now, I don't know if this is a bug, or just BB's attempt to lesser the effect of TIE's, but at this rate, there is hardly any point to playing TIE anymore.

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Date: 3/20/2011 6:35:19 AM
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And one more time.. just to make sure that enough people look into this.. I played TIE today, or if you wish, last night, and my enthusiasm only went up +1, from 7 to 8. I don't think that is normal, but what do you think?
Any thoughts? Is it a bug? Not a bug? If not a bug, should BB still do something about it? Thank you.

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Date: 3/20/2011 6:50:30 AM
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I don't have any explanation, your case is very different from the one discussed previously.

If your enthusiasm was 7 today before the game and was only 8 after the game and before the daily update, it's a bug.

*knock on wood* I am glad I have never suffered any of those bugs with formations and enthusiasm *knock on wood again*


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Date: 3/21/2011 2:59:06 PM
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I played TIE today, or if you wish, last night, and my enthusiasm only went up +1, from 7 to 8.
I don't think that is normal, but what do you think?
Any thoughts? Is it a bug? Not a bug?

I would appreciate if someone from BB could address this. I think I have a valid concern here and I really don't see a single reason why my question would be ignored for this long.


Last edited by Mr. Hyde at 3/21/2011 3:02:48 PM

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Date: 3/22/2011 2:51:12 PM
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I know very well that enthusiasm tend to go back to 5, but I checked it only a couple of hours after my TIE game took place. You can't possibly argue that tendency of enthusiasm to go back to its default level is so severe that in only a couple of hours effects of TIE are almost completely negated. I mean, at this rate there is almost no point in playing TIE. And I know for a fact that that was not the case in the past.
When I decided to TIE that game, I thought I was doing something smart, something that will benefit me in long term, but in reality all I did was help my opponent to land me the most embarrassing defeat of the season (-46) which had an immediate impact on my economy, and may I add, will most likely have just as severe effect on my future games attendance. And for what? Three days later I'm back to almost exact same enthusiasm level as I was before that TIE.
If this is indeed not a bug, but rather one of the normal features of new engine, BB should definitely reevaluate their latest decisions in that respect. I know, I know, it seems like I brag a lot, but just look around the forum.. do you see how many users are dissatisfied with the way this game engine works?

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