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224166.16 in reply to 224166.15
Date: 8/22/2012 8:30:15 PM
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I have the following two Canadians. What do you recommend I do to give myself at the best chance at promoting with these guys while making them players that have potential for the NT?. I don't care about U21. I will be investing in a level 5 trainer and have no problem just sitting in D3 for a season or two, training these guys up, building my arena, and trying to stockpile some cash.

Weekly salary: $ 3 523
Role: draws a paycheck
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DMI: 0
Age: 18
Height: 6'7" / 201 cm
Potential: hall of famer
Game Shape: respectable
Jump Shot: inept Jump Range: average
Outside Def.: mediocre Handling: pitiful
Driving: atrocious Passing: average
Inside Shot: respectable Inside Def.: inept
Rebounding: mediocre Shot Blocking: respectable
Stamina: pitiful Free Throw: pitiful

Weekly salary: $ 4 942
Role: regular starter
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DMI: 27400
Age: 19
Height: 6'10" / 208 cm
Potential: hall of famer
Game Shape: respectable
Jump Shot: average Jump Range: respectable
Outside Def.: strong ↑ Handling: mediocre
Driving: respectable ↑ Passing: inept ↑
Inside Shot: mediocre Inside Def.: mediocre
Rebounding: respectable Shot Blocking: awful
Stamina: mediocre Free Throw: awful

Experience: pitiful


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224166.17 in reply to 224166.16
Date: 8/22/2012 10:28:27 PM
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You have a nice trainees there. hey have tons of potential, and nice height to make them into SF's or PF in 2nd case. Starting skills aren't that great so U21 is out of the question and NT is questionable but they sure will make great players at some points. I would start with outside training first (because of height of the 2nd player). I would do OD and JR first to get one position outside training out of the way, then passing (also one position but much faster). OD at least prominent, JR I would say around respectable-strong and passing to strong-proficient. Then it is your call. Either do one-on-one, ID or RB.


Good idea is to try to figure out what final product do you want and how much salary you can sacrifice for them. Then planning training form that point is pretty straight-forward (if you are not trying to promote, then it get's tricky)

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224166.18 in reply to 224166.12
Date: 8/23/2012 7:49:38 AM
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Fairchild likely will not make my team, but as already mentioned I will need to see the other candidates builds prior to making any firm decisions.

I am not a fan of his build especially in todays look insise era, so if he were to make the team he would have to be more of a specialist.

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224166.19 in reply to 224166.14
Date: 8/23/2012 7:53:03 AM
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How about Chretien? I like this player although he too is only an option in certain tactics. I think he has a chance at the very least to see time as a back up. Thomas is a solid player but his complete lack of rebounding is not ideal at the NT level.

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224166.20 in reply to 224166.16
Date: 8/23/2012 8:06:04 AM
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Nice trainees!! Balanced PF/SF would be my recommended end goal based on both their height and potential.

I would recommend training them in OD first as it tends to be the slowest and passing last as it is the fastest. In between my preferance is a rotation that can get continual pops.

Good luck and be sure to ask it you have any questions as the 18 year old certainly has a chance to be an impact player on the NT, he looks very familiar to Maja when I drafted him and he turned out alright.

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224166.22 in reply to 224166.21
Date: 8/23/2012 11:54:14 PM
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Does it make sense to do that here? Isn't this an advantage for opposing coaches to know? That is, if the opposing coach sees the offense-oriented lineup starters listed here are all at proficient GS, there would be a greater propensity to use that tactic. Also, I think it may give up some of the players skills or lackthereof. That's just my opinion, plus I don't see a huge benefit because gameshape, opponents strengths/weaknesses and in the long run, players getting trained should influence the lineup.

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224166.24 in reply to 224166.23
Date: 8/24/2012 8:29:30 AM
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just a reminder for everyone to get the votes in by Sunday night

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224166.25 in reply to 224166.23
Date: 8/24/2012 1:50:25 PM
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Ok,

So look inside/low post:

Williams/Germain I value PA very much on PG, especialy in LI. Also some JR doesnt hurt if he can't get inside. Bowie would also be under consideration

Stronks/Kearns I like their OD obviously, nice secondaries, and great passing on Stronks (for SG)

Essa/ Maja (Essa is still a beast, and Maja should provide nice kick as LI SF coming from the bench)

Demers/Maja (very nice PFs that have good IS and provide great secondaries. Maja can cover both SF and PF sub)

Jutras/Moran (I like skill set on Jutras for a C, but I still had dillema with starting him over Moran, but IS was deciding factor)



Outside offence: (PTB, R&G)

Stronks / Williams

Kearns/ Stavridis (really dont see a great candidate there for a sub, might play Issa there as well)

Essa/ Thomas

Maja/Demers

Moran/Jutras

I believe that in this case PA would be spread out on 1-4 positions so Stronks should be fine at PG, especially Since he and Kearns are good shooters. Essa and Maja also can score from the outside as well as from the inside. I chose Moran as C becuase of his ID and RB, and I believe that this would be our biggest concern with players from 1-4 positions.

For motion I would start Williams over Stronks, and have Stronks cover subs as both PG and SG (bit more OF from that)


You asked for a 3rd lineup. Not really sure what you would expect there since I covered pretty much every major tactic.

Let me know what do you expect. I dont see a point honestly in all defence because that would limit numer of skills affecting it to 2-3 and that's not how this game works.


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224166.26 in reply to 224166.25
Date: 8/24/2012 5:23:05 PM
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How about a desperation tactic/lineup for your third lineup?

Ill set the stage. Last game of the qualifying ames for the knockout stages of the consolation tournament. Canada already has 4 losses and making the top 32 is impossible(So obviously a CT). We are up against Poland who is undefeated and somehow not in the worlds(so obviously a TIE). We are grossly outmatched. What tactic/lineup do you use?

@both candidates.

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