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From: pecinja
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Date: 06/07/2015 15:19:03
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Hi! I am about to change my training. Now I have to choose, which one of these guys continue training.

Víctor Valdenebro

Weekly salary: $ 6 446
Role: regular starter
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DMI: 32500
Age: 20
Height: 6'2" / 188 cm
Potential: allstar
Game Shape: respectable
Jump Shot: prominent Jump Range: respectable
Outside Def.: strong Handling: prolific ↑
Driving: prominent Passing: strong
Inside Shot: proficient ↑ Inside Def.: respectable
Rebounding: awful Shot Blocking: pitiful
Stamina: pitiful Free Throw: atrocious

Experience: pitiful

Saul Billingsley

Weekly salary: $ 4 454
Role: rotation player
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DMI: 35700
Age: 20
Height: 6'4" / 193 cm
Potential: superstar
Game Shape: strong
Jump Shot: prolific Jump Range: mediocre
Outside Def.: respectable Handling: prolific
Driving: sensational ↑ Passing: mediocre
Inside Shot: strong Inside Def.: atrocious
Rebounding: average Shot Blocking: inept
Stamina: awful Free Throw: respectable

Experience: atrocious
Poll:  Saul or Victor
Victor
Saul
split training

From: BigT

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Date: 06/07/2015 16:17:23
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Depends on what you want to do with them

Saul has potential superstar and Victor allstar, so Saul has a higher ceiling as Victor.

The potential cap for both are the following

allstar : 40-65k

superstar : 125-145k

Regarding you situation i would say you need a good/ versatile role player so you could go with both of them and forget about their potential limit.

What i would definitely do for both is increasing their secondaries, and as quickly as possible. I would give both +- 2 pops in IS, in rebounding i would go for 7. And well for ID they have a huge differential, I would try to get 10 there so you could let them play PG/SG/SF.

Regarding their main skills i would make Victor my main traine and Saul my second, if you train 1 position you can give 3x48 minutes so it should be possible to train both equally

I hope i could help you :)

From: pecinja

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Date: 06/07/2015 17:13:36
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thanks for this. I have 2 main trainees so Victor and Saul have just one spot opened for training. at the moment I am going for 1vs1 for forwards and then switching to OD, then maybe again 1vs1 a bit, then IS --> ID. JS after that. Assists after that. Order could change a bit maybe.

From: er1k

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Date: 06/08/2015 03:46:35
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I would choose Victor. He has a better and more well-rounded skill set.

He might hit his skill cap or not, depending on how well-rounded you keep training him. For example, I have an allstar potential player at 114 total skill points and Victor is at 75 (I think), so there's still a lot of room left.

From: pecinja

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Date: 06/08/2015 05:06:09
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I tried on buzzer-manager that salary thingy. He reached 100% of his potential looking pretty awesome. if both of them wouldn't be my draftees, choice would be easier.

any advice and suggestions are more then welcome.


cheers!

EDIT: what about split training?! if I train them both in one position. slower skillups but in case of injury I have great back up training guy.

Last edited by pecinja at 06/08/2015 05:07:45

From: er1k

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Date: 06/08/2015 05:35:24
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If you split their training you will probably waste money.

Right now at 20 years old their value on the transfer market is driven mainly by their potential. And with that I don't mean potential like All-Star or Superstar, but what they could become if trained right for a few more seasons.

So training one of them heavily and selling the other will be the more economical solution.

If you split training, you will have two rather mediocre players which will not return you a lot on the market and will not help your team either.
So better get some cash for one of them now and have a great starting five or backup player later.

From: pecinja

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Date: 06/08/2015 06:44:16
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looks like a guy to sell is Saul. bigger pot, brighter future. I think in 4-5 seasons Victor will be pretty damn good SG.



EDIT: this is what I am going for. any other suggestions?

Last edited by pecinja at 06/08/2015 10:11:11

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Date: 06/08/2015 12:28:14
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he looks very good, at same time, he has no Sb.

From: jonte

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Date: 06/09/2015 06:00:19
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make sure you give him FT and Stamina at some Point. apart from that he looks great

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Date: 06/13/2015 12:48:41
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JS - 1, JR + 2. Passing is nuts! Blocking doesn't make any sense.The rest looks fine.

Last edited by DailyStuff at 06/13/2015 12:50:20