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Just one thing to keep in mind that GS has sublevels as well...need to make sure that the player is in a high 9 GS not low or mid 9.

Apparently 9 GS has no sublevels. I argued the same way as you, but Manon and others were pretty adamant there are no sublevels at Proficient, so I went and checked the data on my players, which eventually confirmed their claims. It's actually quite evident, I haven't been able to find any instance of a player on 9 GS whose DMI increased over time without playing at a position of training.

Perhaps we can take a look at some team renowned for training GS and gather some more evidence, but I'm pretty convinced at this point.

Last edited by Lemonshine at 08/24/2015 10:32:11

Here is a guy that has been on my team for a while that has never received training...for comparison these are all the weeks that he was at 9 GS at the same level of EXP and ST.

06/26 - 07/02/2015 239 600 9
06/19 - 06/25/2015 239 800 9
04/10 - 04/16/2015 242 500 9
03/27 - 04/02/2015 243 100 9
03/20 - 03/26/2015 243 400 9
02/13 - 02/19/2015 245 000 9
02/06 - 02/12/2015 244 900 9

Shouldn't his DMI be the same? Or is this just the impact of declining ST over time?

It the slow drop in stamina. When I posted my guys they all had had a similar pattern, dropping 2-300 per week.

interesting good to know

One of my guys (21280425):
Period..........................Salary...........DMI........Age…GS
07/31 - 08/06/2015…..$ 70 343…..1 266 600…..33…..7
07/24 - 07/30/2015…..$ 72 097…..1 268 900…..32…..9
07/17 - 07/23/2015…..$ 72 097…..1 271 200…..32…..9
07/10 - 07/16/2015…..$ 72 097…..1 271 200…..32…..9
06/19 - 06/25/2015…..$ 72 097…..1 274 600…..32…..9
06/12 - 06/18/2015…..$ 72 097…..1 276 000…..32…..9
05/22 - 05/28/2015…..$ 72 097…..1 280 400…..32…..9
04/24 - 04/30/2015…..$ 72 097…..1 289 200…..32…..7
04/17 - 04/23/2015…..$ 72 786…..1 290 700…..31…..9
04/10 - 04/16/2015…..$ 72 786…..1 292 200…..31…..9
04/03 - 04/09/2015…..$ 72 786…..1 293 700…..31…..9
03/13 - 03/19/2015…..$ 72 786…..1 291 100…..31…..9
03/06 - 03/12/2015…..$ 72 786…..1 292 600…..31…..9
02/27 - 03/05/2015…..$ 72 786…..1 294 100…..31…..9
02/20 - 02/26/2015…..$ 72 786…..1 295 400…..31…..9
01/09 - 01/15/2015…..$ 75 097…..1 290 100…..30…..9
11/21 - 11/27/2014…..$ 75 097…..1 301 100…..30…..9

Before the week in bold he got 41 minutes of 1v1 guards training in this game: (79191174)

Last edited by Lemonshine at 08/24/2015 14:04:39

Jump Shot: tremendous Jump Range: sensational
Outside Def.: marvelous Handling: sensational
Driving: tremendous Passing: prominent
Inside Shot: prolific Inside Def.: prolific
Rebounding: proficient Shot Blocking: average
Stamina: average Free Throw: strong

Experience: average TSP: 112 (75 + 37)

My initial end goal for him was 14/12/15/12/14/12/12/12/10/10

I gave up on the SB training a long time ago when i tried to train his Sb and he got injured...then the next time i tried to train SB he got injured AGAIN!
I have given up on the 2 more PA pops and the IS/ID/RB pops...his last pop was in JR sometime last season. After that i switched to 1v1g and have been on that since.
I am not supporter so i cannot see exactly how long its been but i know it has been atleast 6 weeks of 1v1G in which all my other trainees have popped multiple times.
So really..i just want 14JS 14DR so i can be satisfied with him. I have spent 6 seasons training him so i feel obligated to push him till he gets those last 2 pops. Hopefully it happens, i would be very disappointed if i could not get atleast those 2 pops as i already know i cannot get him the last few pops i really want to round him out.

Damn, another passing pop or two would be just perfect.

yes i agree, and i will be doing 1 pos PA with Scuderi whenever Mcneil gets these two pops..but at this rate it would be foolish to waste the training slot as it would probably take the next 2 seasons haha

I recommend you train PA first then, since PA training will also train HA and DR. Maybe you get unexpected pops? :)

thanks for posting