yes, and look at the team that's beaten both top seeds, ABC Pro. Beat you by 1, beat me in OT the second game and lost to me by 5 points the first game, though their team is better, and or the manager and the coach are doing their jobs better. Their defense was impeccable against my team, and they played in TIE vs my normal. May be looking at a Groundhog vs ABC final, as I believe my team Hustlas II may be overachieving juuust a bit.