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286047.18 in reply to 286047.17
Date: 04/05/2017 10:29:40
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To me it's fairly simple: the best player on one of the best teams in the league. And going by that, OKC will have a significantly worse record than any of the other candidates.

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Date: 04/05/2017 11:12:03
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Nice to see, that you are adding Porzingis. :)

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Date: 04/06/2017 10:10:51
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Kawhi or Harden to me.

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286047.23 in reply to 286047.22
Date: 04/07/2017 17:39:05
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Isnt Westbrook padding his rebounding stats a bit? I dunno... I guess all 3 mentioned are pretty deserving, but if the game´s on the line, id take LeBron over anyone else... hes still the best player, but Kawhi is closing in fast.

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286047.24 in reply to 286047.5
Date: 04/09/2017 10:41:16
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People like to get on Harden for his defense, but this season he has shown a more consistent effort. I remember at least 2 instances where he hustled and got a chasedown block.

Westbrook has racked up all those triple doubles, but sometimes his bigs let him grab rebounds or he snatches them away. Also, as a fan of him, I feel like his triple-double feat could be spurred by a little bit of selfishness.

Kawhi continues to do what he's been doing since 2013 and it seems as if people keep forgetting how good he is on both ends of the floor.

History and Rockets fans like myself say James Harden will win it, but if all 3 were out, I believe OKC would be the team with the worst record (out of the 3 teams).

lmao, you want to take credit away from Westbrook for his bigs giving up a rebound or two. Yet your giving credit to Harden for playing in a Mike D'antoni offense? GTFO!

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286047.25 in reply to 286047.24
Date: 04/10/2017 06:09:49
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lmao, you want to take credit away from Westbrook for his bigs giving up a rebound or two. Yet your giving credit to Harden for playing in a Mike D'antoni offense? GTFO!


Nah I'll stay right here. First off, what about D'Antoni's offense do you dislike? The fact that they give up decent percentage shots for 3 pointers? Please explain, because I want to know.

If 1 or 2 rebounds were the only reason why people think Westbrook shouldn't be MVP, I would probably pick him. He leads the league in uncontested rebounds at almost 8 per game. http://stats.nba.com/players/defensive-rebounding/#!?sort...

Not only do his bigs box out on free throws for him to get the board (should the FT shooter miss), there have been numerous instances where he doesn't even contest his man's shot. How does Alex Abrines have 234 total shot contests to Westbrook's 291, when Abrines hasn't even played half the amount if minutes Westbrook has played this season? Out of all the players in the league that average at least 30 minutes per game, he is only ahead of Rudy Gobert and Hassan Whiteside in 3PT shot contests. http://stats.nba.com/players/hustle/#!?sort=CONTESTED_SHO...

TLDR; 8 uncontested rebounds per game is higher than 2 and he's been lazier on defense. https://twitter.com/lakeshowyo/status/847921839179415552

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286047.26 in reply to 286047.25
Date: 04/10/2017 06:40:59
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Every single player on Westbrook's team is having a worse season than 2015-16.

And so that we're clear this is not chicken and egg, but a direct result of Westbrook chasing his personal accolades and stifling the rest of the team.

People are hating on Harden, but I refuse to give the MVP to a player on a team with the 10th best record in the league.

Last edited by Lemonshine at 04/10/2017 06:52:31

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286047.27 in reply to 286047.25
Date: 04/10/2017 19:17:15
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8 uncontested rebounds per game is higher than 2 and he's been lazier on defense. (https://twitter.com/lakeshowyo/status/847921839179415552)
8 uncontested RPG, doesn't mean he gets 8 more than everyone else. Most rebounds are uncontested, or have you not watched the NBA lately? And since you only want look at analytics, how about he averaged a triple double, in 20 something less possessions a game and in less mpg, than the Big O. But yeah, that doesn't matter either.

But its clear in your bias, that playing in a faster more frenetic offense, wouldn't help Harden? And saying he gives more effort on defense, is laughable.

If you had to take 1 player to get a stop on defense, it wouldn't be Harden.

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