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Hello all HGL managers! League tables have just been updated after 14 Rounds of play, for example here: (328546.5)!
Very thrilling end of Regular Season number 3 is getting closer to an end, last round (Round 15) is being played in just 2 days!

As you can see, theoretically there could be 3-way or even 4-way tie situations (equal amount of wins-teams) after Regular Season.

As conversation about ranking teams in equal wins-situations has halted/taken break recently, to make it more clear and fair upfront before last Round (Round 15) has been played I wanted to let you guys know that I think we should use ranking system rule that I presented in previous posts, starting from this compilation message (here: (328546.113)), and finally ending to this post here: (328546.118), so total of 4 post from myself.

Also in post (328546.120) I've explained a bit further why this "only all wins or losses"-system has been selected.

Unless someone strongly opposes that decision, that is team ranking/classification system that we'll use for ranking teams after Regular Season on Season 3 (ORSR-rankings for Playoffs).

But please note there's not lots of time to solve this (before Round 15 takes place), so if you do oppose my "equal wins teams-rule proposition" presented in previous message, please give as strong basis as possible on why you'd like some other ranking system to be used.



********** Rule compilation: **********
In a very brief compilation, most important points of my aforementioned rule addition are, that:

1. in the case of 3 or more teams tied in wins-situations, Regular Season +/- point differential is not the first and foremost comparison method, but team reduction (reduction of compared teams that have similar number of wins in Regular Season) is first attempted by comparing how their Regular Season game results against comparison group teams have been this Season.

2. Please note, that only by winning all or losing all Regular Season games against all comparison group teams your team will be positioned higher or lower, than the rest of teams in that comparison group.

3. If still 3 or more teams remain in a comparison group (that haven't won or lost all matches against comparison group teams) after previously mentioned comparison (see "2."), then we will proceed next to comparing full Regular Season +/- point differential (RS PD).

4. However, if the comparison group can be reduced to two teams with this attempt (at stage "2.", see above), then these remaining two teams will be ranked based on their Regular Season match result (this Season, of course).

As you guys know, this is already existing comparison rule ("winner of Regular Season match will be ranked higher of two teams"-rule) and it is being applied at first place, and comparison is not made based on their full Regular Season +/- point differential (RS PD) if there are only two teams that remain to be compared with each other (after that reduction attempt, see "2." above).
********** End of compilation **********



It is also a possibility, that if nobody objects this (rule proposition by me) by, say, 24 hours for now (original publication of this post), we will use this ranking method on Season 3 equal wins situations for 3 or more teams, and then, if many enough managers see it necessary to change current system, arrange a voting on how teams ought to be ranked in the future seasons (again, in 3 or more teams at tied wins-situations).

However, from my point of view, I personally see this as a best choice in a situation, in where perfect solution doesn't seem to exist.
(This is of course perfectly objectional - one could take any view/position really, and claim it's perfect solution, but personally I think perfect in every sense of the word hardly ever exists).

Last edited by Wagner at 12/6/2025 9:10:43 AM

As you can see, theoretically there could be 3-way or even 4-way tie situations (equal amount of wins-teams) after Regular Season.

As conversation about ranking teams in equal wins-situations has halted/taken break recently, to make it more clear and fair upfront before last Round (Round 15) has been played I wanted to let you guys know that I think we should use ranking system rule that I presented in previous posts, starting from this compilation message (here: (328546.113)), and finally ending to this post here: (328546.118), so total of 4 post from myself.

Also in post (328546.120) I've explained a bit further why this "only all wins or losses"-system has been selected.

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It is also a possibility, that if nobody objects this (rule proposition by me) by, say, 24 hours for now (original publication of this post), we will use this ranking method on Season 3 equal wins situations for 3 or more teams [...]

To quote myself above, no messages within 24 hours of the publication, so we'll use this ranking system in 3 or more teams in tied wins-situations, to create Official Regular Season Rankings (a.k.a. ORSR) for HGL Season 3 Playoffs.

Good luck to everyone on Round 15!

I'll try to create First Round Playoff matchups soon after last Round of Regular Season has been played tomorrow.

Please also arrange your Playoff matches as soon as possible (after schedule has been published), and please provide a link for First Round Playoff match to your teams´own box score post!

Nothing has changed in terms of Playoff practices, so note for example that:
- matches are always played in home or away court, not on neutral court (absolutely no exceptions!)
- Official match times will be used in Playoffs (3.30 PM EET normal time), a.k.a. 15.30
- home team is responsible for sending PU match challenge, etc.

You know how it goes by experience, and as for those who haven't got lots of experience on Playoffs/HGL yet, for me they seem/feel like they'd be well informed/knowledgeable of Playoff practices so I expect everything to go smoothly.

Don't hesitate to ask though, if there's anything you're unsure of.

Please note:
Official HGL Playoff match time on Season 3 will be 3.30 PM EET (Eastern European Time) normal time (which is same time that you can now see your HGL matches being played when you look at your BB match schedule page).

3.30PM of course means same as 15.30 in European time format.

Last edited by Wagner at 12/7/2025 9:50:43 AM

@ all HGL managers:
Last Regular Season Round has now been played, and Official Regular Season Rankings (ORSR) have now been cemented for the Season 3 Playoffs.

I have corrected league tables (on both Scores and Main threads) to reflect correct standings between teams.

Actual ORSR table is found from the Season 3 Playoff post, here: (328547.7).

Please note, that now it's time for teams that ranked from 5th to 12th to start organizing Playoff matches; please do that as soon as possible, because First Round of Playoffs is played already on this Sunday, 14th of December!

Official match time will be your local equivalent of 3.30PM EET (which is the same time that you see your HGL matches being played this Season when you take a look at your Buzzerbeater schedule).


It's also important to remember, that:

A) All matches are played either on home or away court, so no neutral court matches in Playoffs!

B) home team (higher ranked team) is responsible for sending PU match challenge, and lower ranked team is responsible for accepting challenge with correct match details
Match details means that match day, time and court balance are appropriate, which in this case means that better ranked team will play on their home court; if these match details are not correct, do not accept match challenge, but instead contact manager in question (and me if it seems necessary/preferred by you) by BBMail, and we'll solve the situation together.

C) Please keep on adding your Playoff match links as soon as match has been organized (so that I can verify it and copy-paste it to official HGL schedule), and scores of matches to your team's own Season box score post.


So let's get started with this match organizing process for HGL Season 3 First Round of Playoffs,
here is the schedule (home team name is in bold text):

Rank #5 ED vs. #12 SUM *Waiting for a match link!*

Rank #6 HB vs. #11 WAG *Waiting for a match link!*

Rank #7 WMO vs. #10 LGM *Waiting for a match link!*

Rank #8 LMS vs. #9 VIV *Waiting for a match link!*

Interesting Playoffs ahead on Season 3 for sure!

As an additional motivation and challenge (in this case especially to all underdogs, including myself!) I'd like to mention, that so far in 2 seasons we've played 24 Playoff contests, and only in 1 (!) occasion away teams have been able to break the home court magic (Rajdersi beat Hårdboll on Season 2 Bronze match on away court)!

So it'll be interesting to see, if this Season in HGL continues the home court trend, or if more than one of us underdogs are able to cause an upset to home fans!
(Maybe some of us underdogs just need to take a part of next years´ team budget and rent, say, 20-30 buses or rent few charter aircrafts, fill them with our away team fans and make them make some noise on away court, yes)? ;)


So here's a further breakdown on wins on different Playoff Rounds (to compare home/away team success on each Round of Playoffs) on different Seasons:

First Round point differences in HGL Playoffs from the view point of a higher ranked team=home team
(number of upsets in this Playoff Round/average home team win in points in all Rounds´matches):

Season 1: 17, 29, 13, 11 (0 upsets/average home team win: 17,5 points)
Season 2: 16, 14, 31, 14 (0/18,75p)


Second Round (quarter-finals) point differences in HGL Playoffs from the view point of a higher ranked team=home team
(number of upsets in this Playoff Round/average home team win in points in all Rounds´matches):

Season 1: 20, 36, 16, 3 (0 upsets/18,75 points)
Season 2: 36, 31, 13, 19 (0/24,75p)


Third Round (semi-finals) point differences in HGL Playoffs from the view point of a higher ranked team=home team
(number of upsets in this Playoff Round/average home team win in points in all Rounds´matches):

Season 1: 18, 26 (0 upsets/22 points)
Season 2: 15, 35 (0/25p)


Fourth Round (Medal games) point differences in HGL Playoffs from the view point of a higher ranked team=home team
(number of upsets in this Playoff Round/average home team win in points in all Rounds´matches):

Season 1: 6, 12 (0 upsets/9 points)
Season 2: 15, -12 (1 upset/1,5 points)


As we can see from that compilation, it's been a rocky road for away teams for sure!

In these 2 Seasons, 1 upset win only and in the case of matches in where higher ranked teams have won, only in 2 occassions in 24 Playoff match attempts (which equals to 8,3% of matches), away teams have been able to lose by less than 11 points (Elan Demars by 3 in Season 1 semis´, and Santa Eufemia Ducks by 6 in Season 1 Bronze match), so I feel like for away teams there's still lots of room to improve on that.

Anyway, good luck for everybody on First Round Playoff matches, and let's get them organized as soon as possible (and don't forget to provide match link as well when you have organized it)!

Last edited by Wagner at 12/9/2025 6:33:12 AM