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296465.11 in reply to 296465.4
Date: 10/26/2018 11:05:47 PM
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If you're going to be running for U21 Manager, you cannot give up after a few failed attempts of communication. I know from experience that there are managers who do not ever respond, but they'll still get a message every few weeks so that I'm able to at least have a chance at making inroads with them.

As the leader of the u21, you cannot just blame it on others as if it's a "two-way street", you've got to be able to accept responsibilities and force yourself to not give up with communication.


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296465.12 in reply to 296465.10
Date: 10/26/2018 11:21:01 PM
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I wouldn't worry too much with Tehran actually. the NT team in the US is SIGNIFICANTLY behind multiple other nations because of work prior to him taking over kinda slacking off near the end. I can't vouch for the last two or three seasons, but in seasons 36-41 it was a huge falloff in scouting between the U21 that had 6-7 scouts versus the NT who had 0 or 1 additional scout.

I suppose you take my at my word or don't take me at my word, i wont force your decision one way or the other. My reputation in the u21 tournament is solid amongst my competition and i have not been overly deceptive or broken mTIE's, so there is that?

I think the divide or rift of a foreign manager is non-existent. You are either good at what you do and earn respect, or you are bad at what you do and discontent with poor performance grows.

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296465.15 in reply to 296465.11
Date: 10/27/2018 9:52:05 AM
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Thanks for the suggestion. but I already showed that when I was NT I will work on communicating even if it means the owner doesn't respond. heck I must have sent you 8 messages about guevremont and only got one response back.. so I proved that to you. in terms of the "two way street" comment I made, It was in reference to the fact he was the coach, I was no longer the coach.... of course if I was coach id make the effort(extra), which is why I was expecting it from the coach.. (make sense? )

and I wasn't blaming....blaming make it seem as though I didn't take responsibility. I admitted it was a two way street, which means I take responsibility but he should too.. thus the two way street :) not an excuse, it's a rationale.


anyways, good luck to all candidates..

@FurYak... clearly your record speaks for itself. It ironic that you made the 'it should be the best candidate who wins regardless of country thing".. I agree with you, but it's ironic because in the USA U21 threads, they discourage foreigners from running. But alas, good luck to you as well.



From: Music_Chick

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296465.16 in reply to 296465.13
Date: 10/27/2018 9:55:04 AM
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not a disingenuine person.. i'm the opposite. there are many of those in BB, I am not one of them. All my intents and purposes are genuine and I'll leave it at that, because I'm not looking to create further divide.

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296465.17 in reply to 296465.15
Date: 10/27/2018 10:03:14 AM
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I also did not say that I was "excited" to talk with you like you wanted to be with the NT. It was during a time where I wasn't as involved with the game as I am now.

Also: If you REALLY wanted to be involved with the team, wouldn't you persist to work with RIP? At that time, I didn't want to be part of the team management.

From: Fwinns

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296465.18 in reply to 296465.14
Date: 10/27/2018 11:03:49 AM
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i do have a spreadsheet (a bit messy but with everything needed), I'll send it to the new manager.
I'd like to have a response from Fury about the scouting as well. Do you plan on scouting the ~600 players 18-21yo with allstar+ potential by yourself?
You can't really count on scouts, response rate are way too low for that, so you'll need to do the work if you intend to have a player database. The trouble with young players is that you can't really count on the salary to make a selection for you so there's no way around it.
It took me a good week to scout all players (starting from scratch). Is any of the candidates willing to do that or do you count on other means to select the ~15 best players?

From: Myles

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296465.19 in reply to 296465.18
Date: 10/27/2018 11:26:07 AM
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If I win the election, I will be going through with the scouting of all 600~ players. I did it last time that I was u21 manager (since Kumiko had passed), and would be okay with doing it once again. The scouting portion of the job, might be the most fun part of it all.

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296465.20 in reply to 296465.19
Date: 10/27/2018 11:56:37 AM
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Calling it fun might be a big stretch (it' s boring and repetitive!), but it sure is a big part of the job at the beginning

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296465.21 in reply to 296465.19
Date: 10/27/2018 12:26:10 PM
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It is definitely most time consuming. I am also looking for commitment when it comes to building a database and believe it would be beneficial to have something like that on the offsite accessible by few trusted personnel. I remember something like that was setup once or twice and we actually had decent activity back when I was NT manager with people contribution to pre-game discussions.
How much time in first week after selection is each candidate willing to spend on building database
How much time in consecutive weeks one believes it will take to do a good job as U21 manager and are they ready for such commitment?

My questions for the candidates are those: given that even in fairly small country the depth in U21 is so much bigger than in NT, it is possible you will have to make tough decisions when it comes to roster:

- what do you prioritize on players in U21 - offense, defense, flow?
- Do you believe the way to achieve success is to go with primary skills non-stop or is there still time to work on secondaries?
- What are the two most important secondary skills on big men



Also as a sidenote: why in the world doesn't BB allow to have official position of NT assistant manager? For example main manager could turn on/off option for assistant to set lineups, etc. based on the time he has on the given week and the trust he/she has for the assistant

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