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I can accept that despite having better team rebounding, an outside offense is still going to get outrebounded even on missed free throws because, apparently, not playing LI means not boxing out.

I can accept that choosing to not play an inside offense means that the opponent doesn't foul, ever, while my team will foul more on defense and even commit offensive fouls because not playing LI means that we've waived our right to go to the free throw line or, heaven forbid, do something unseemly like play defense.

Hell, I can even accept that building a team deliberately that shoots hetter from three than from two (four seasons in a row, statistically) doesn't mean that the team will actually ever shoot more from beyond the arc than from inside, no matter how much I try to make anything other than three point shooting suck.

But, for heaven's sake, in my three losses in the past four league games, my SG position hasn't topped 20% in all three games and this isn't exactly a new thing. Tonight's game was a 2-11 (0-4 from three) stinkburger despite a 94.0 PP100, while Tuesday saw a mighty 2-10 (0-4) on an admittedly low 61.1 PP100 and last Saturday a stunning 2-10 (1-9) on 78.9 PP100 where the three point shot that was made was a garbage time three in the last two minutes.

Let's also keep in mind that my *LOW* outside shooting rating was Prolific (high) and the highest OD faced was prolific (medium) on a 1-3-1 on a team full of SFs and PFs.

If this was a recent phenomenon only, I might let it slide because the two guys who've started at SG in those games aren't ideal (both are high JR and relatively lwo JS) but I've also in the past had guys built the opposite way do the same thing, and a 15-15 guy at C in a patient against a center with low OD literally missed every shot throrugh three quarters despite a 96.6 PP100 ((69079208)). The number of sub 20% games from the SG potision in Princeton in particular is distressing, and if my wi-fi were more reliable I might go back through season 28 and start documenting. But honestly, while I don't mind an uphill challenge, when I see one of the three primary offensive positions put up shooting percentages way beyond projections over and over again, at some point it just stops being a challenge to try to overcome and instead becomes an unfair obstacle.

On the bright side, tonight my SG position wasn't horrendously bad. Still love that trying to come back late, in a game where we shot 18-30 on 3FG and 16-60 on 2FG, we shot 3-3 from 3FG in the last 1:03 and 0-3 from 2FG, but it seems like there's a limit of how much shot selection can be affected beyond choosing a specific offense.

I agree that shot selection code needs a revamp as Cs shoot way too much threes as well as the problem you noticed. Since GE is notoriously hard to update properly, I can't really say when we're going to update it, but it will be done, as it just doesn't make sense.

The GE has flaws, with this and some other problems, there's no running from that.

If I could save up for a few days and give this a +3, I would.

It's mid level. There are quite a few more urgent things atm.

It's mid level. There are quite a few more urgent things atm.

My team (which will come out of this game with probably high prolific/low sensational team ratings in outside scoring against probably wondrous team OD). So, with those stats, my team is shooting 16.7% from the floor at halftime. Compound that with only having 8 defensive rebounds vs. my opponent's 13 offensive boardss and it really is quite astounding. There was a game in the "How did I lose that?" thread where the outside team was at 36 points through 3 quarters before scoring 50 in the fourth. It's way too frequently seen that teams playing outside put up really low shooting for half of the game, and then at some point in the second half the magnet gets turned on and they start scoring at a level, almost as if the engine is trying to fix the obviously wrong shooting percentages generated early on.

Anyway, I'm certain that at some point late I'll probably get within ten. Hell, I may still win. And as the number of teams who put up this level of outside scoring is admittedly very low, I can see it not being urgent. I kind of wish I had a little more time so I'd feel comfortable applying for the development position, but I'm already working full time. But it's definitely careened way past 'buggy' and 'broken' and is now just 'shattered'.

Oh, no, please, the GE is fine as it is. It is the same GE for all the managers, so it is fair. The statistics are realistic. And, let's be honest, if you touch it you can only make it worse. Too many 3s for the Cs? Haven't you watched basketball since Kareem Abdul Jabbar or what?

The worst thing that I can imagine in this game, and the only one that can make me quit at this point, is if I can't predict if my players will perform well next season, because there is a threat that the GE will be revamped.

So, please, put your effort in a mobile friendly game, and let the GE as it is.

Outside shooting at the level my team has should not be 0-15 (0-13) in the first half, ever from the PG/SG positions, which is what I came home to today. And as you'll see from the prior posts in the thread is anything but an anomaly. Whether it should be prioritized over mobile is of course a different question, but the age old question of whether it's a lack of JR training or a broken engine is definitively answered.

[edit: With that said, I think there's more than enough information here to demonstrate the bugs, which have already been acknowledged, and so there's no point in keeping the thread open further.]

Last edited by GM-hrudey at 8/5/2017 9:14:22 PM