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Date: 05/10/2014 17:25:55
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Hello, first of all i am not very experencied player of BB,
so if this sounds funny to you or it has been stated before i am sorry.

I believe there are some attributes-skills missing.

If there is jump range as a skill why isnt there speed or strenght too?
they are both related with athleticism too.

In my opinion there are more skills for Centers and Forwards (mostly PF) than guards.
I mean, there is Jump Shot (you can train it), there is Inside Shot (you can train that too), so why isnt there Outside shot as a skill when in fact you CAN train it separately?
Another example is the existence of Inside Defense and Outside Defense (you can train both) but there is also Shot Blocking (you can train that too), so why isnt there Stealing as well?

PS. Sorry for my bad english, its not my native language as you can imagine.

From: Myles

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258807.2 in reply to 258807.1
Date: 05/10/2014 17:32:39
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Stealing goes into both inside and Outside defense.
outside Shot is Jump Range.
Speed would just comfuse the game engine by having players faster than each other.
I don't like the idea but, you should keep on suggesting.

From: pasadoros

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258807.3 in reply to 258807.2
Date: 05/12/2014 06:00:24
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Thanks for the quick reply!

I think i understand now how stealing works! (sorry for my ignorance)
I also know now which skill is outside shot, even thought i dont get why you named it that way? :/ (so far i thought it was how high a player can jump to determine if he can dunk or just do lay ups and for rembounding if he was short and stuff!)

So i guess strenght would comfuse the game engine too, like you said about speed, right???

From: Myles

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258807.4 in reply to 258807.3
Date: 05/12/2014 07:00:03
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That is correct.

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258807.5 in reply to 258807.3
Date: 05/12/2014 09:31:48
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its ok u are not the first to make this mistake.

Unfortunately, as you will learn the more you speak English, is that the English language, is really, well... its really quite stupid most of the time.

I have actually seen this mistake made many many times. Perhaps BB should consider renaming it? (obviously not change the way it works in the game, just the english name and its translations).

suggestions:
Outside Shot
3pt Shot
Jump Shot Range

etc

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258807.6 in reply to 258807.5
Date: 05/13/2014 04:17:31
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Well, since somebody posted about missing skills, I gotta say I had a skill or two that I would like to see in BB.
- Post play or back to basket (not the same as inside shot, that goes more for layups and dunks and hooks, this would be the post moves and skill getting open)
- add Stealing or remove Blocking (I know stealing is on Inside/Outside Defence, why isn't block too then?)
- atleticism/hustle/thoughness (could help on dunks, rebounds and on those dead balls that go of your hands off the court)

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Date: 05/13/2014 08:37:55
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- add Stealing or remove Blocking (I know stealing is on Inside/Outside Defence, why isn't block too then?)


well, stealing is directly related to Outside Defence and probably a little bit to ID.

BLocking is directly related to the Shot Blocking skill.

So im no sure what you are trying to say or why you think these are, or should be hidden skills.

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Date: 05/13/2014 10:55:53
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BLocking is directly related to the Shot Blocking skill??
You can have blocks on 3pt shots and on layups/dunks. Block could be implicit on ID and OD like steal is.

Either that or...

Had steal. I really think than 1 guy can be a great Outside defender on 1vs1 game or moving throught screens etc, and be a bad pick pocket player or pass interceptor.

Thats why I'm saying, either remove block from the game and make it also depending on OD and ID too (more on ID probably), or add the Steal attribute.
Thats the reason why OD is so powerfull, its like 2 atributes in 1. And on inside skills you got to train 2 different skills

Got it?

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258807.9 in reply to 258807.8
Date: 05/14/2014 05:02:02
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Yup I get what u are sayi g.

you might find that Handling already is the complimentary skill for OD. I havent done any analysis on this but im pretty sure that given two players with the same OD rating, the guy with better handling will produce a better perimeter defense rating AND possibly more steals. I dont have any stats to prove this though.

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258807.10 in reply to 258807.9
Date: 05/14/2014 14:16:41
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I believe OD + HA = Steal too.

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258807.11 in reply to 258807.10
Date: 05/14/2014 14:21:57
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Really? I just learned something xDD Is there any place where you we can confirm that? Makes some sense but I'm not sure :S