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288893.5 in reply to 288893.3
Date: 08/23/2017 19:42:15
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Mine is 47, Haek had 54 I think (18x3), but Haek had much worse IS and RB than my guy and RB is important if he has to defend a big man. Haek also had higher PA although not by much. Unfortunately my guy is a MVP while Haek was a HoF, so no issues with capping there. Considering I added about 80 TSP with limited HA/DR, that I used a lvl 4 trainer most of the times and that I had to train him out of position when I got in D1 (while trying to make the playoffs), I'm pretty happy about the result tbh.

Last edited by Lemonshine at 08/23/2017 19:42:55

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Date: 08/24/2017 01:57:40
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I never heard about Haek. Full name? Sorry, I've been "away" couple of seasons...

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Date: 08/24/2017 02:04:46
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Harry "God of Defense" Haek (26270986)

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288893.8 in reply to 288893.7
Date: 08/24/2017 02:07:39
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Thanks! I have a player aged 24, with MVP potential in training. Current OD+ID+SB is 51...

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Date: 08/24/2017 04:19:27
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Well, don't want to tell too much, but let's say he ain't the best scorer in the BB world 😊

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288893.13 in reply to 288893.12
Date: 08/24/2017 08:07:20
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It makes no sense, unless he has also some JS. And even then without enough IS he will miss layups.

The problem I had with Haek is that both his IS and RB were too low (5 IS I think it was and maybe 13-14 RB, I don't know because Nachmahr left it for last so I don't know where he got to). Haek played in D3 all his career except some D4 and D2 in his first 2-3 seasons. His stats need to be taken with a pinch of salt because of this.

He shot 0.329 for his career and has this stat line: 7.0(pts)- 7.1(rbd)- 3.2(ast)- 1.5(stl)- 1.9(blk). My guy: 0.401 shooting and 9.9- 12.6- 3.0- 0.8- 2.2. If you factor in one has been playing the near totality of his career in D3 and the other the majority in D1 and the rest in D2, I don't know if I'd take Haek: the only thing he could do better was guarding outside players, but being so bad on the other side of the court and a so-so rebounder would really hurt you in a competitive league.

Haek really was a one trick pony. As I told Nachmahr back then, with the same potential and the same amount of training he did, one could build a different kind of one trick pony, a 20JS 20JR 20IS 15PA player and then see whether he contributes more or less than the defense only guy.

Rebounding should be included in the defensive skills. A blocked shot is not as good as a steal, because it does not necessarily change the possession of the ball. In order to get possession, you need RB to take the loose ball after it was blocked.

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Date: 08/24/2017 12:30:46
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It makes no sense, unless he has also some JS. And even then without enough IS he will miss layups.


If it sheds any light on the matter (well, even if it doesn't), the two guys I'm talking about are both guards and are only in the low 40s on OD+ID+SB, so it's the JR part of that which brings them close to 60 (though guards with 15 SB are kind of rare too, I think).

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Date: 08/24/2017 12:46:03
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A Croatian was sold earlier in the season. He had 21JS, 22JR and 15PA. I could have bought him but I decided it wasn't worth the cost given his age (34).

The only problem I have with JR is that I always feel I have to sacrifice PA because of it and I don't want to. Now the question is 18JS 14JR 21OD or 18/16/
/20? Are 2 extra points in JR worth the extra on in OD?

Last edited by Lemonshine at 08/24/2017 13:04:08

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