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Yes, I agree.

You may have missed
- that I did. not agree to the economical optimal and definetly no fun way which was described here earlier,
- my first post in this thread,
- that I am homegrown with my main team,
- that I am training the third generation of U21-players with my utopian-team which was launched in season 50 and my arena is finished for about 8 seasons now.

I kinda agree that it's really boring. Sadly it's the most financially efficient way. I've guided a few new players from my country previously and now that their 24 weeks are up, they can actually compete much better than those who progress through the training route. I've personally gone through both routes - joining in season 3 with my first account, I actually had 1 player being in the NT right off the bat which saw me prioritize my funds for in training. After having to sell off my second 200k NT player because I couldn't maintain their salaries, that kinda convinced me to go the financial route when I came back to the game a couple of years after leaving it.

I also find this the better way because my country only has two human divisions so if you don't go this way, managers will be drowning in a 500k salary floor if they don't do what I did. Previously when teams could go bot, it was a vicious cycle - 4-5 teams would go bot, a number of unsuspecting human teams get promoted and suffer the same date as those who caused them to promote prematurely, then go bot and drag in a new crop of managers into the same loop. It was like those horror stories where an entity hunts for victims to take their place to pass on and their victims have to keep up the cycle to pass on xD Of course, it's not so bad anymore now that teams can no longer go bot after bankruptcy.

That said, in countries with larger divisions you might still be able to survive with a less financially efficient playstyle because there's less urgency to earn money. But still, it depends on whether you want to play a very boring way for 24 weeks before not looking back, or you want to undergo a few seasons of slightly less boring training before ending up with 2 decent players whom you could have bought off the market after your first 24 weeks.

Also come on, who are we kidding - you don't learn more about tactics by training 6 players in 1 on 1 than having a skeleton crew. In fact it's the opposite - you can freely switch your tactics around because you don't need to worry about training minutes or positions played.

If your team is new, the salary floor does not apply to you for a number of weeks. I would suggest to take advantage of it and go under the salary floor and try to get as much money as you can.

I wouldn't do what you already did. Buy a bunch of players. But since that is done, don't buy any more, You can compete in your division. If you get promoted, you will get crushed. So it's more about laying the groundwork for the long run.

Don't put any money into scouting. Even if you are able to identify a really good player, there's always a chance he starts out with low TSP. Unless a player is HOF or ATG, they won't sell for much.

As other players said, put your money into the arena. It takes a while to build, but without it you can't make enough money to sustain your team. Aim for 20000 between bleachers and lower tier. Courtside seats max at 500 and luxury boxes at 50.

Decide how you want to train. Either big men or guards. Stick with it. Add old vets to fill in the holes, but watch the salary. You still want to prioritize the arena.

Once the next season rolls around, start looking for 18 year old rookies. Stick to All Star or Perennial All Star players. They can be bought for cheap and trained up to a pretty decent level. You want to avoid guys with terrible Stamina and FT. If you are training guards, you want OD to be Average or above. I also think there is utility in players that look out of position. A 6'1" center can be trained into a PG. Or a 7'0" PG can be turned into a Center.

Just enjoy the season and don't get wrapped up in the score. You want to be building for 2-3 seasons down the road.

Whatever you decide just don't buy top potential players for training. My advice to you is not to do that.
If you buy high potential drafters and decide to train them and save money to buy top players when you finish training of those drafters, you need to know that in 2027 you will have a problem because you WILL BE PUNISHED for training players for years by losing games because of your team's poor stamina in relation to opponents who do not train players, but can do stamina training.

My advice to you is that it's not worth losing your temper because too many things on this game are designed to make us leave the game and not to stay.

Please delete the last sentence of your post … you should not negatively influence others because of your own dissatisfaction.

Did I said anything wrong or not true?

This game has 13946 active managers, 22 days ago it had 14235. It's decrease of 289 people... 2%

Where is it going? Do You think this game has any future if it keeps going this way? There's more negative things which forces us to leave it than positive which entice us to stay and play it.

Stupid things happen every few days. Each game has a different GE for substitutions. Imagine that one of your key players needs to play 13 and a half minutes to get a full training in a scrimmage game that you win by 80-90 points. But he only played 12 minutes as a second substitute. In a normal game, he would play 17-19 minutes. That's the last thing that happened to me, for example. And such stupid things happen every few days. That's why I'm not surprised why this game is losing players who came after a strong advertising campaign. There is nothing to keep them here. These numbers are the reality of this game, and I'm afraid it's only going to get worse and worse. People might think I'm a hater, but I'm just opening people's eyes.

Did I said anything wrong or not true?

Yes, because the original question was „best way to start?“, your comment „better not to start!“ is no answer to that question.

Last edited by LA-flaterik123 at 07/28/2023 15:45:37

If you buy high potential drafters and decide to train them and save money to buy top players when you finish training of those drafters, you need to know that in 2027 you will have a problem because you WILL BE PUNISHED for training players for years by losing games because of your team's poor stamina in relation to opponents who do not train players, but can do stamina training.

Sorry to fuel your anger but nah, what kinda nonsense is that. Get yourself a level 3 gym and a level 6 or 7 nutritionist and you'll see your player's stamina pop without even needing to train. Stamina receives cross training as well, so stamina will definitely not be much of a problem. You also don't really need proficient or prominent stamina unless you're planning to use 7 man lineups to compete.

Tho I do agree that a starting team shouldn't buy high potential trainees to train. After all they're not stable enough financially. High potential trainees are more expensive, hence they won't get a proper return on investment out of them, especially when they can't train them at full efficiency.

If your sole purpose on BB is going to be to hate on the game and tell newer users to not join, please leave.

No one wants you to “open people’s eyes” by being negative and ruining others experience. It’s annoying and distasteful. If you dislike the game as much as you say, stop playing. It’s not that hard.