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From: fewmit
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I'm the uber-competitive type. What can I do to get an edge?
Here are some things you can do to help your player look more attractive to the U21 manager (in no particular order):
1. Get primary skills significantly above the minimums.
2. Start with a player with good secondaries, Stamina and/or Free Throw.
3. Prove that you can keep your player in good game shape by managing your minutes well every week.
4. Train a player with more than the minimum potential to ensure they won't cap mid-season.
5. Become a "known entity" in the USA-Offsite community, where managers work to support the team.
6. Use the training simulator to fine tune your own training plan that fits into the player type you're building. (http://www.buzzerbeater.com/community/forum/read.aspx?thr...)

That's it? I've got a zillion more questions!
The single best way to get additional help with training a U21 player is to join the USA off-site forum (http://s3.zetaboards.com/BuzzerBeater_USA_NT/index/). Contact fewmit (29222) or Sleet (28628) to get approved after you register for the site. There you can chat, ask questions, and start a training diary.

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This is a list of U21 player types. This doesn't cover all ways to train or all player possibilities, but these plans do create the types of players U21 coaches have traditionally looked for and is a great starting point for creating your player.

If you are considering training a player that fits one of these guidelines, please look on the off-site or contact a U21 scout or coach for a very helpful and efficient training plan for your player!

Common player types:
Point Guard
Height - Up to 6'4"
18yo min. - Perennial Allstar Potential (7); OD+HA+PA>14; 30 Guard Skills
21yo min. - 14OD, 13PA, 65 Guard Skills

Big Man
Height - 6'8" or taller (taller is better)
18yo min. - Superstar Potential (8); IS+ID+RB+SB>18
21yo min. - 13IS, 21ID+SB, 13RB

Small Forward
Height - Between 6'3" & 6'9"
18yo min. - Allstar Potential (6); OD+ID=10, 50 Total Skill Points (w/o ST/FT)
21yo min. - 80 total skills, 9OD/ID, 6PS/IS

Combo Guard
Height - Up to 6'5" (shorter is better)
18yo min. - Perennial Allstar Potential (7); JS+OD+PA>15; 31 Guard Skills
21yo min. - 13OD, 11PA, 68 Guard Skills

Inside Offense Guard
Height - Up to 6'3" (shorter is better)
18yo min. - Perennial Allstar Potential (7); JS+OD+PA>14; IS>3; 30 Guard Skills
21yo min. - 12OD, 11PA, 7IS, 63 Guard Skills

Inside Offense Small Forward
Height - Between 6'4" & 6'11"
18yo min. - Allstar Potential (6); OD+ID+IS+PA=20, 50 Total Skill Points (w/o ST/FT)
21yo min. - 9OD/ID, 6PS, 11IS

Power Forward
Height - 6'7" or taller (taller is better)
18yo min. - Perennial Allstar Potential (7); JS+IS+ID+RB+SB>23
21yo min. - 12IS, 19ID+SB, 12RB, 7JS

Shooting Guard
Height - Up to 6'2" (shorter is better)
18yo min. - Perennial Allstar Potential (7); OD+JS+PA>15; 30 Guard Skills
21yo min. - 13OD, 14JS, 9PA, 63 Guard Skills

edit 4/23/13: PF and SG now "common" player types
edit 6/4/13: SB option added to big man and PF types
edit 9/24/13: off-site contacts

Last edited by fewmit at 09/25/2013 00:26:09

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Excellent discussion. Glad to see another guide like this put out there.

From: tough

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Point Guard
Owner: Mountain Eagles

Weekly salary: $ 3 200
Role: rotation player
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DMI: 53200
Age: 18
Height: 6'8" / 203 cm
Potential: perennial allstar
Game Shape: proficient

Jump Shot: awful Jump Range: mediocre
Outside Def.: average Handling: strong
Driving: mediocre ↑ Passing: proficient ↑
Inside Shot: average Inside Def.: inept
Rebounding: respectable Shot Blocking: average
Stamina: inept Free Throw: inept

Experience: atrocious

what is the guy's chances at being in U21? 20%? 10%? slim to none? I wana know b/c I and debating on Making him a Inside O SF or a Specialist PF.....I think he is on track to be either or, I'm just wanting to see what are his chances at being a U21 guy.

I'm ok with him not being on U21, (because of his ID) I was planning on making him one of those types anyways


thanks

Last edited by tough at 01/14/2013 00:48:13

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Very slim. America has so many superstar+ potential players that pas has little shot...

Paul salas is MVP and trained constantly and not make u21

From: fewmit

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There's plenty of room with 7 potential to make a U21 SF. Additional potential for that position is would actually be largely unnecessary to make the team. Webster made the team this season with 6 potential.

As for your question, tough, I can't give you a probability. Your guys has the base skills to reach the minimums required if you train him well, but I can't tell you what his competition would look like in season 25 for a roster spot. You'll just have to go for it and see

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From: unmatt

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ropriétaire: Matts team

Salaire: $ 14 375
Rôle: cinq majeur
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DMI 150400
Age: 21
Taille: 6'1" / 185 cm
Potentiel: Hall of Famer
Forme cette semaine: fort

Jump shot: respectable 7 Portée shoot: compétent 9
Déf. extérieure: magnifique 15 Agilité: merveilleux 14
Dribble: prolifique 11 Passe: respectable 7
Shoot intérieur: atroce 1 Déf. intérieure: fort 8
Rebond: moyen 6 Contre: moyen 6
Endurance: moyen 6 Lancer franc: médiocre 1

Experience: pitoyable 2

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ropriétaire: Matts team

Salaire: $ 14 375
Rôle: cinq majeur
(BuzzerBeta)

DMI 150400
Age: 21
Taille: 6'1" / 185 cm
Potentiel: Hall of Famer
Forme cette semaine: fort

Jump shot: respectable 7 Portée shoot: compétent 9
Déf. extérieure: magnifique 15 Agilité: merveilleux 14
Dribble: prolifique 11 Passe: respectable 7
Shoot intérieur: atroce 1 Déf. intérieure: fort 8
Rebond: moyen 6 Contre: moyen 6
Endurance: moyen 6 Lancer franc: médiocre 1

Experience: pitoyable 2



inside shot is horrible... passing is low... JS is low...

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Owner: Amsterdam Green

Weekly salary: $ 8 994
Role: regular starter
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DMI: 93300
Age: 20
Height: 6'1" / 185 cm
Potential: perennial allstar
Game Shape: strong
Jump Shot: prominent Jump Range: respectable
Outside Def.: prolific Handling: prominent
Driving: strong Passing: prominent
Inside Shot: average ↑ Inside Def.: mediocre
Rebounding: average Shot Blocking: respectable
Stamina: awful Free Throw: awful

Experience: atrocious
probably not going to make U21 but still a good asset.

From: SoulLegend

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Owner: SoulLegends

Weekly salary: $18 912
Role: regular starter

DMI: 110500
Age: 21
Height 7'1" / 216 cm
Potential: allstar
Game Shape: average

Jump Shot: pitiful Jump Range: awful
Outside Def.: strong Handling: pitiful
Driving: mediocre Passing: astrocious
Inside Shot: profilic Inside Def.: tremendous
Rebounding: sensational Shot Blocking: respectable
Stamina: proficient Free Throw: respectable

Experience: awful
Does he have a chance at 21?

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First of all, his secondaries are terrible. Second, there are bigs who have higher IS/ID/REB than he does. I know it is up to fewmit, but we already have enough bigs with better skills.

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First of all, his secondaries are terrible. Second, there are bigs who have higher IS/ID/REB than he does. I know it is up to fewmit, but we already have enough bigs with better skills.


That's not how you answer that. You really should highlight a positive first, so as to lighten up the letdown. For example:

" I am impressed that he has proficient stamina. This ensures he'll be able to suck at the same level the entire time, rather than having to carry a backup to share the load."


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