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Proof ID doesn't really matter, but SB kinda does.

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271649.8 in reply to 271649.6
Date: 7/25/2015 1:52:30 PM
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Why do we have so many threads about Look Inside - Inside Defense - Blocking? I think there are 3 new started per day.
ID vs SB is new micronation issue.

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Date: 7/26/2015 12:43:57 AM
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Are we saying ID isn't as important just for bigs or for everyone? Because I think good ID for guards combined with high OD can absolutely shutdown offensive stars.

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Date: 7/26/2015 7:41:10 AM
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that match is the proof that SB is useless..
losing team had most blocks in its C and PF, 6 vs 2..

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Date: 7/26/2015 8:20:17 AM
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In my opinion its less a matter of ID vs SB (i think both matter) but more of how we see their influence.
Most players look at the stats and the match ratings because thats basically all we have.
However, match ratings have several issues.
Take a look at this game (german cup quarter final):
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So i defend with an ID rating of 9 vs inside attack 12, attack with outside shooting 7 vs OD rating 10 and have worse flow and rebounding with less effort and similar motivation. Yet, i won...how?

Main reason are those two:
1. The match ratings get seriously messed up if a player plays out of position (my PG was a 2.24m C trainee) because most of the position boni multipliers (e.g. for rebounding) depend on the offensive position only.

2. Because SB is underrepresented in inside defense match ratings.
To elaborate: Did i get much more blocks? No. Did my high SB players force the opponent to a bad shooting percentage? Yes.

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271649.14 in reply to 271649.13
Date: 7/26/2015 10:02:17 AM
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excellent work Trainerman.
Now that the secret of SB is out, who would like to buy my two SB trainee's for $5 billion ?


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Date: 7/26/2015 3:31:52 PM
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I wish I have that amount of money. But i'm guessing now that I read all this information about Shot blocking. That its a important skill to have with inside defense.

Heading on the right path so far. Are you?
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271649.17 in reply to 271649.16
Date: 7/26/2015 9:53:39 PM
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im fairly confident that themajority of the BB community will not adopt SB or SB based players.

as such, i am starting a new exclusive club.....where members are allowed only if their team has a player whom has blocked 7 shots or more in a game.
im going to call it:

S Club 7


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Date: 7/27/2015 4:07:14 AM
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I think the problem is that getting the players to stop SB takes too long; when the changes to the salary formula and GE were made, first we had to analyze the impact of the changes. Pretty recently some of the experimenting teams have concluded the impact is significant enough to adapt your team to. Now we are at the point that this opinion is being spread, and then the masses start to follow by training SB. But until the masses start training SB, a SB player will be hard to come by, because most teams that train them don't sell them. So until that time, LI will still dominate because of the supply for those kind of players. It doesn't mean the system is broken, it just takes time for the adjustments to take effect.

That said, I am seeing increased success with outside offenses too. It seems to me that offenses like motion can be succesful as they naturally boost outside shots, while still having effective inside scoring too (unlike LI, where outside shots get penalized). So I think that with a balanced team, Motion can be a more effective attack than LI.

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