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I'm also overmatched in my league with salaries ranging from $60,000 to $800,000 while still growing arena and training. I think that rather than tanking, it will be more challenging to balancing training, minutes, winning and enthusiasm. I could possibly have won my first game except that my trainee went 1/11 but them's the breaks.

For whatever it's worth, once the promotion bonus wore off, I made about the same amount of money treading water as a 6-7th seed in D.III as I did winning 21-1 games in D.IV.

I didn't relegate on purpose (and I'm not saying you should either) but I think some teams can be in a position occasionally where it is a reasonable thing to at least consider if it is part of a long-term plan, and I would say that the week to week income is not wildly different between losing teams in D.III and winning teams in D.IV.

If you're riding a promotion bonus, or just able to win in general, you will obviously be able to make more in D.III. And there are all the risks of not being able to bounce back up from D.IV right away that people have already brought up.

I would reevaluate this 6-8 games into the season, when the standings start to indicate your chances to stay up. You went to the trouble to win a championship and promote, why not make a go of it in your new league! Just my two cents.

I would reevaluate this 6-8 games into the season, when the standings start to indicate your chances to stay up. You went to the trouble to win a championship and promote, why not make a go of it in your new league! Just my two cents.

good idea, also he could play competive in the cup that way, and with a bit of luck he could win some rounds there.

1) I'd recommend not tanking -- the hurt from going down (or finishing 5th/6th) is really bad for 1-2 seasons, whereas treading water will get you more revenues overall.
2) Try to steal games while people are still in the cup. I'd recommend just not trying at all in the cup (if you get a bot/IV/V team that's beatable, try to win it, but all TIE, all backups, don't throw league games for it). For that matter, I'd cut down to 1 starter at each non-training position, your 3 trainees (I'm assuming you're training single position PG, but haven't really looked at your roster), and then 4 backups (after the cup loss, probably 2 "real backups", one for SG/SF and one for PF/C and then 2 low salary -- 2k or so -- minute eaters that just play scrimmages to make sure your training & GS stays level).

So then your league lineup would look like (for both games, though different trainees each game, of course):

PG - Trainee/Trainee/Trainee
SG - Starter/SG-SF Sub/SG-SF Sub
SF - Starter/SG-SF Sub/SG-SF Sub
PF - Starter/PF-C Sub/PF-C Sub
C - Starter/PF-C Sub/PF-C Sub

And your scrimmage lineup would look like:
PG - Trainee #3
SG or SF - SG-SF Sub
SG or SF - Minute eater
PF or C - PF-C Sub
PF or C - Minute eater

3) Staff wise, cut to a level 4 doctor & trainer (you can get 12k salary for less than 100k auction price). Massage doctor will make sure your starters stay in 8 GS most of the season even on 80-85 minutes/week. Cut the PR to level 2 or level 3, as cheap weekly as possible, either NA or CI specialty don't add much to the purchase cost. Your preference, I'd probably lean toward Crowd Involvement (help with HCA). This should cut your Staff costs to ~25-30k/wk.

I've decided to base my decision off of the next two games I play. I want to look at my income, since my TV Salary is higher than I expected (91k) and I don't know what my Arena will be. If I can beat the Lincoln Gorillas and not get completely destroyed by the SoCal Phsyconauts then I'll keep on fighting for a 5 seed. If my income is too low and my team is not competing well at all I'll sell all my players, and hunker down for the long run.

My staff is already 35k with a level 4 trainer and a level 2 doctor with Taping Injuries and a level 2 PR with National Appeal...

As for my training, I'm doing two position training PG/SG to get my four trainees minutes plus trying to get one of my older players a single pop in a skill he really needs it in... Single position has always killed me in the past as the player gets subbed at the end of the game, and my training gets screwed up. Also I don't like playing a player for the entire game.

Thanks for all the input this has helped me a LOT

If possible, not tank.

You could spend 25k/week in your staff, ~ 12k trainer (lvl4), 8k doctor(lvl3) and 5k pr (lvl 2). I don't know and no talk about your roster, that's your but if not tank, you will have the next finances:

Salaries ~ 200k (don't know, this is yours)
Staff ~ 25k
Scouting 10k

Total: around 240k because of the staff

Arena (150k at least, if improve arena better)
Merchandise (next to 35k)
TV (91k)

Total: around 270.

Here you are saving around 30k/week, without tanking.

You can have that cheap staff with those 50k you have right now, all staff with speciality. If I made it, you can. I bought my 4lvl trainer with Career Extension 12k salary by 12k exactly (yeh, the same), my lvl2 pr with Crowd Involvement 2k and my lvl 3 doctor with Massage 8k salary by 10k. The worst is pay to take off the older staff but with the money you have now, is possible.

III is not harder to stay, if you want you'll not be relegated. The harder is get promoted. You have to work with your team and be patient.



Edit: if tank, your minimum roster salary must be equal to your TV contract, anyway you'll pay that at least.

Last edited by Vegas at 8/1/2011 2:10:46 PM

wow 91k merchandise is a lot...that makes up for the amount of seats you have. I sent you a bb mail which im sure you read. All these guys do have valid points with not demoting. If you get halfway through the season and you know you are going to be near last than you can sell off and tank to get money. But if you are in contention to make playoffs or get 5th then you should be fine to stay in D.III. So just wait a little while before making your final decision as we only just had our first game.

Yeah I read your mail, and I have 91k TV not 91k merchandise although that would be really cool haha... I'll see where I'm at in a week or so and make my decision from there, I'll be training OD all season so I won't need to buy any players in that area, my starters are closing in on all Sensational, and should have one or two wondrous or marvelous later in the season