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Great list Bains, I have flicked through the forum but there hasn't been much of a consensus for a while who out the the and 0 teams that are or aren't expected to win there divisions? Anyone care to share?

I think that both you and Koop are correct, however I do no think this change in the market has benefitted anyone except teams promoting to the ABBL. You used to be able to compete in division III with a $150,000 roster, well those days are gone. Now everyone has at least one $50,000 player. Profits are very low and the teams that spend up big trying to take the championship and fall short and wrecked for seasons, look at Possum Pete as an example. When you get to division II instead of the $30,000 players you used to face now everyone has a $100,000 beast or two. If you are lucky you will be in a conference where there are so many tankers tha you can try to survive, if not the choice is drive yourself bankrupt or tank and bank. Look at the epidemic of tanking now. With everyone being able to afford such expensive players you are either in or out.

II.1 8 tankers.
II.2 2 tankers.
II.3 5 tankers.
II.4 5 tankers.

That is 20/64 teams in division II have/are tanking. I don't think this is good for the game at all. The teams that are helped are those that promote to the ABBL and think they have a shot, well they can pick up ABBL standard players for a song and have a fair chance of surviving.

Honestly next season in the ABBL looks like being a bloodbath. If the promotees are the current division II league leaders abigfishy, tremell, Vios and me, all four have good long term players and an excellent base for ABBL success. Things could be really shaken up next season.

Great work Bainsy. When is the next interview? I love that you are involving these division III teams in the community that they may be about to join. Some of these teams like Urmummas, Maggots, TeamAkuma, Coin Collectors and Vis Maior are already well known, others like Popenpop and Mayhem are like who?

well from what i have seen there are a few 17-0 teams who might have a huge challenge on their hands.

III.1

Starting with III.1, where Tannum Tantrums leads the division. However the Blue conference is riddled with some quality teams. Fishy Kangas, The Winnerz, Jerries. These are some high quality div III teams. Jerries has div II experience, The Winnerz have U21 star Chris Johnson, and the Kangas have made the III.1 playoffs on 5 occasions.

tannum tantrums vs. Fishy Kangas 100 - 88 (42968176)
The Winnerz vs. tannum tantrums 82 - 94 (42968183)

Although i am lead to believe both the Kangas and Winnerz were riddled with injuries for those games

The thing that the Tantrums have to their advantage is that they should be able to coast their way to the finals, whereas the Blue representative will have had to slug it out with at least one of the other teams mentioned, possibly both.

III.2

In III.2, Popenop leads the division with 17-0. Looking at their side, they arent one of the stongest div III leaders, however must have done some things right to get to this point. I would think that they would have some cash floating around as they haven't made a meaningful purchase for close to 11 months.

Their main contenders would have to be Magic vs Bird (PD of 647 - 3rd highest in div 3 i think), Skijm and Lords of Hellfire.

Looking at these teams i Magic could be very scary with last seasons U21 star Jankowski leading the team. however GS will be vitally important for this side, as they have been vulnerable to poor GS in the past.

Skijm has div 2 experience and could have some money saved up to make a challenge.

IMO the biggest worry for Popenpop should be from LOH in the other conference. Like the Tantrums they should have an easy route to the finals, banking some much needed enthusiasm while the Blue side battles it out.

III.3

You should know this one, but for those who don't. The GC Vikings are dominating III.3 with a very strong lineup. The only real contender i can see is the Flames (knocked me out of the cup before :S). They have 6 seasons of Div II experience spread between II.1 and II.4. As a team they are solid all over the board and have been very vigilent with their GS. If they are able to get Petreski from awful GS up to strong then they could well prove difficult for the Vikings.

The Vikings however have some real good players, mainly this guy (9889011). But spending so long in div II the Flames may have some cash to splurge and spoil the party.

Well Popenpop declined to reply. well didnt decline as such, just didnt reply. we might get something from him when he comes online later in the season.

However we should get some insight from Bigsmart, manager of the Sydney Sea Eagles 17-0 in III.5.

@ SchaBoom - i will get around to some more division evaluations over the next few days, so sit tight and fork out that 211k for Vitanyi

Yep, 100% agree with you - this is definitely not good for the state of the game. You put it very succintly when you say you are "either in or you're out". It really would be a lot more fun if everyone could stay competitive rather than a couple teams gunning for the championship, while the rest of the teams sit around in mediocrity to save money.

I am in exactly the same boat that Possum was in last season - I've put everything I've got into trying to win it this season and relying on the promotion money to get me out of financial trouble - if I don't win my team will be suffering the consequences for seasons to come.

Regardless of whether you're training or buying veterans, the cost of winning a championship now is so much more then the money you actually make. I know if I tried to play an economically sound game this season, I wouldn't have a chance in hell of winning.

It also doesn't help that cashed up div 2 teams that have been tanking all season drop down with a piggy bank full of BB dollars, ready to buy up some veterans and pwn their way back to div 2, smashing any dreams we div 3ers have of promoting to the glorious competition they call div 2! hahaha

Akuma I agree with your agreement!

Bainsy more excellent contributions. The most interesting league and they key to everything I think is yours.

I am in agreement of the agreement you have with Akuma's agreement.

those cashed up div 2 relegates *cough* Vis Maior *cough* can kiss my arse

i think on saturday the question that we have been asking ourselves in this thread could be answered. i fear that might be the case, and make for a very boring III.12 playoffs

I agree with your agreement of yodas agreement with my agreement of his agreement to koops and my statements (which were likely agreements to someone elses posts).

Im hoping the Hippos lose (sorry Hippos). That will knock them off the top spot in the auto promotion battle :)

Im playing Possum this saturday as well - it will be a good battle I'm thinking. Fingers crossed I can pull off a W and stay in the auto promotion race!

Are Tilley Thunder that good or has Bainsy been smoking crack again?

Evening All,

how are we all doing?

Great write up Bains - awesome read.

Thought i would have my little say and say Div 2 here we come.

Yoda - is my roster good enough to compete next season?

Is my 11K Arena way too low for Div 2?

Cheers
Roozer