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Well, I'm not one of those talented Div III teams...yet, but I'll be happy enough to be at the pointy end of a Div II league in a human year's time :-)

I too have no ounce of talent, but would like to be in the middle of div 2 in a year's time

yeah, after posting that I thought about the liklihood of being at the 'pointy end' of a Div II; I think somewhere in the 'middle' would be much more realistic.

there is no room for middle tier teams here, stay away from us!

Yoda sometimes gets to give the ABBL some spotlight. If somehow both Vios and I end up there next season and Sid Vicious is still there, watch out, it will be the most verbose ABBL ever.

I think last season the lucky fish did the division III elevator men as well.

What would be scary I think is that managers will continue to improve..
I remember when I first joined div 3, the champions of season 12 won with fairly small salaries...
Take a look now at the average salary it takes to win a div 3 championship...
Imagine how much it would take in a few seasons time..

It seems like the best strategy to take is to bide your time...save your cash...train your players... then place all your eggs in one basket and make a pounce for the championship in the classic "Win or Bust" move.

Remember I won III.6 with my best player being about $12k although there were teams with much higher salaried players.

I think last season the lucky fish did the division III elevator men as well.

unfortunately it was the div II elevator men, had it been div III i might have actually made that list

things are different now though cos of two reasons...

- there are more players, they have instant access to best advice on the forums hence they know what they are doing. Also they are very enthusiastic and ultra competitive by nature.

- and the market crash. You never saw 200k or 300k salaried player in a div3 team back then.

back then a 12k or even a 20k center could cost as much as 1mil. I paid over 1mil each for each of them. 13.5k(2939096), 24k(2214661).

so back in the days it would be a lot harder for a div3 to progress to div1,
now it is a lot easier all thanks to the creators trying to close the gap between the top dogs and newly created teams.

You wont see teams like Direwolf or WA is a dump dominating the abbl for decades and decades no more... its going to get a lot tighter as soon as people start believing in themselves like what whitebeard has done. Only a matter of time before the monkeybizzes, the baxter bogans, the BHB's and newer ones start catching on.



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Round 17 Update

1. (1) Wagadugu Hippopotamuses 17 0 PD 701 (III.12)
2. (2) GC Vikings 17 0 PD 625 (III.3)
3. (4) Urmummas 17 0 PD 607 (III.11)
4. (3) Maggots 17 0 PD 592 (III.13)
5. (5) TeamAkuma 17 0 PD 566 (III.6)
6. (6) Coin Collectors 17 0 PD 520 (III.8)
7. (7) tannum tantrums 17 0 PD 502 (III.1)
8. (8) Popenpop 17 0 PD 454 (III.2)
9. (9) Sydney Sea Eagles 17 0 PD 419 (III.5)
10. (10) Vis Maior 16 1 PD 754 (III.12)
11. (14) Southern Breakers 16 1 PD 519 (III.15)
12. (13) Mayhem 16 1 PD 487 (III.9)
13. (12) atrains 16 1 PD 483 (III.7)
14. (11) Melbourne Demons 16 1 PD 477 (III.8)
15. (15) West Indies 16 1 PD 470 (III.10)
16. (16) Jindera Strikers 16 1 PD 435 (III.14)
17. (19) South Gisborne Storm 16 1 PD 416 (III.9)

Dropping Off:
C U Next Tuesday (III.7) - Springvale Shaquilles vs. C U Next Tuesday 87 - 86 (42969274)
Fashion Victims (III.14) - Perth Power Hustlers vs. Fashion Victims 94 - 83 (42970505)

I thought about previewing both of the above games, however decided otherwise. kicking myself now.

Anyway i dont mean to brag but i said the Demons would win by 16 and Monaghan would be big for the Demons, while Echezuría would be big for the Tigers. (42969456) 2 points off, and those boys were the best players for their sides.

In all honesty I don't think it would be possible to repeat that unless the market goes through the roof :)

I'm not saying salary is everything, balanced players will always trounce mono skilled monsters - so long as they are in the same ballpark. A 12K player would have no hope of going up against 100-200k monsters that are the cornerstone of championship contending div 3 teams in our current season

I agree with Koop..the market tanking has made it possible for div 3 teams to put together an incredible roster that would compete in div 2. Although they will not be able to hold on to that roster for more than a season..it really is a gamble.

Great list Bains, I have flicked through the forum but there hasn't been much of a consensus for a while who out the the and 0 teams that are or aren't expected to win there divisions? Anyone care to share?

I think that both you and Koop are correct, however I do no think this change in the market has benefitted anyone except teams promoting to the ABBL. You used to be able to compete in division III with a $150,000 roster, well those days are gone. Now everyone has at least one $50,000 player. Profits are very low and the teams that spend up big trying to take the championship and fall short and wrecked for seasons, look at Possum Pete as an example. When you get to division II instead of the $30,000 players you used to face now everyone has a $100,000 beast or two. If you are lucky you will be in a conference where there are so many tankers tha you can try to survive, if not the choice is drive yourself bankrupt or tank and bank. Look at the epidemic of tanking now. With everyone being able to afford such expensive players you are either in or out.

II.1 8 tankers.
II.2 2 tankers.
II.3 5 tankers.
II.4 5 tankers.

That is 20/64 teams in division II have/are tanking. I don't think this is good for the game at all. The teams that are helped are those that promote to the ABBL and think they have a shot, well they can pick up ABBL standard players for a song and have a fair chance of surviving.

Honestly next season in the ABBL looks like being a bloodbath. If the promotees are the current division II league leaders abigfishy, tremell, Vios and me, all four have good long term players and an excellent base for ABBL success. Things could be really shaken up next season.