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292941.6 in reply to 292941.4
Date: 4/6/2018 11:04:59 AM
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Also the problem are not JR or JS, but the way open shots are simulated. Open shots should have a higher chance of going in, but it appears that team defense is what determines the success of an open shot.


Yes, yes, a million times yes. Did I mention yes?

I still remember a SG I had (Jack Poirier) who consistently over a two plus season span had a higher FG% on contested jump shots vs. "open" ones. I don't believe I ever played him out of position (so always PG, SG, or maybe SF) so it's not a case of lighting up the three skill donkey big men, either. And he was my best pure jump shooter pretty much all of that time, so it wasn't like it was just a guy who wouldn't shoot unless given a tremendous matchup.

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292941.9 in reply to 292941.7
Date: 4/9/2018 3:14:55 PM
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Did you see the other post?

S39 unguarded turnaround jumpers 0/77, fade aways 0/100 and hooks 0/85: all 0% success rate.
Guarded turnaround 78/238, fade aways 306/1092 and hooks 80/271.

S38 (on incomplete data) unguarded turnaround 1/62, fade aways 1/55 and hooks 0/56
Guarded turnaround 60/194, fade aways 295/881 and hooks 67/196

So it appears that if you want to score on those shots it MUST be a guarded shot. Interesting and completely bollocks.


The FG% for Jump Shots is 37% unguarded and 30.5% guarded. The number for 3 pointers is 28.6% and 23.6% respectively. But of course to add insult to injury Jumpers and 3 pointers are also the most guarded shots (with only 34% and 24% open shots respectively).


Yeah, I saw it. It's good stuff (well, good in the sense that I appreciate the effort and considered it very useful to know, not that I think the stats are indicative of a positive situation in terms of the game's balance). I kind of wish I had the patience to catalog the wild disparities in shooting percentages that occur with Princeton - I suspect if I went back through, I could probably identify at least one third of the games where I had a six minute stretch with under 5 points and a six minute stretch with at least 18 points. Maybe even more than that.

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292941.12 in reply to 292941.7
Date: 10/19/2019 2:49:03 AM
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Did you see the other post?

S39 unguarded turnaround jumpers 0/77, fade aways 0/100 and hooks 0/85: all 0% success rate.
Guarded turnaround 78/238, fade aways 306/1092 and hooks 80/271.

S38 (on incomplete data) unguarded turnaround 1/62, fade aways 1/55 and hooks 0/56
Guarded turnaround 60/194, fade aways 295/881 and hooks 67/196

So it appears that if you want to score on those shots it MUST be a guarded shot. Interesting and completely bollocks.


The FG% for Jump Shots is 37% unguarded and 30.5% guarded. The number for 3 pointers is 28.6% and 23.6% respectively. But of course to add insult to injury Jumpers and 3 pointers are also the most guarded shots (with only 34% and 24% open shots respectively).


Was there any response from BB about the issue? It might just be representational bug or something more serious...

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292941.14 in reply to 292941.13
Date: 10/19/2019 4:51:37 AM
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Well all shots are tested against defense as they should or you get in trouble with way too low percentages in low divisions or way too high in upper divisions.

There are two possibilities. First all shots are calculated equally and only best quality shots are reported as open. Second GE determines if a shot is open or not and then does the calculations. If the first is true then it's most likelly just a representational bug within GE not the wiever while the calculations are still correct. In the second option it does sound like quite a huge bug sadlly.

I've gotten the impresion that GE is more or less a boogie man to the BBs and there's very little chance of fixing such bugs???

Last edited by Lonietas at 10/19/2019 4:52:36 AM