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From: Mr J

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Excellent answer. Thanks, Mickyster.

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By the time I reply to one question there's two more which is a lot better than at the start of the week.

I agree with mickyster on there are a definatly a few more older coaches that could stick there hand up and get the gig and that I would happily not run against but with the people that have nominated I believe I'm on par or better manager I think the three if us that have put in a effort all have our different strengths and weakness.

If be looking to have two assistant maybe 3 to help out if I got the job there roles wiould be to contacting managers about future players and keeping updated with there skills say message every second or third week and always being there to answer questions. I'd mainly focus on the current players but would also be giving advice to future players coach and trying to talk to the community to help the team and keep everyone involved.

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You've talked a lot about trying to blood new young players does that mean you'd be giving away some of the hard early spots on the national team and lose games for long term gains.
Instead of trying to make us Asian champions or make the WC and continue the great work that dire and whitebeard has set up.
I know for fact I want to win the Asian championship and believe this season team has the talent and versatility to do so.

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From: Mr J

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You mentioned 'trying to talk to the community to help the team and keep everyone involved'. I think you mentioned a crucial point and one I've been waiting for someone to address: getting Aussie managers more involved. We talk about it each time the elections come around but sometimes forget how hard it is to actually achieve.

Whitebeard's writeups were an exciting way to get an insight into what is going on. Now, while my involvement this past season (in terms of participation) has been a poor one for me, I have seen such things as WB's writeups that keep me interested in the goings on with our NT. So, to the candidates I ask this: If you get the gig what extra feature could you add that will realistically and effectively generate greater interest in our NT? Afterall, if we are interested, learn more about the players, we are likely to get involved.

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From: Brooksy

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Well I'd continue with the write ups that whitebeard has been doing and I've have been doing for the PL that I was in until I decided to give a go at running the tipping comp for the private league.

I've found that I've enjoyed OTT9 write up on retired NT players and will ask him if he would like to do a write up of a current player once a week. I've also read the Canadian forum quite abit thanks to bballin who I believe most of yous should know who he is.

Well due to that they do quite a few things there are are exciting and the community enjoy and I'll do a few of those things such as interviews with players and a training camp write up about the team.

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No I would not throw away the foundation laid. But I think you need to look at the side and balance. IF you have 2 32 year olds in the squad with same levels and a 28 year old with the same also you would have to consider putting the 28 year old in to give him experience so when the 32 year olds are past their best he is ready to be the main guy.
If the full squad was 32 and you had to replace them all it would mean for a bit the side was weaker.
I also think the side should aim to with the Asian Championship but in picking the best side you need to consider the best side for the next year and the year after. My point was about balance in the side.
Spots would never be given away. Talking to Whitebeard the best tool to encourage coaches to train guys fully is to make sure they have earnt their spot in the team. But the goal would be to have various options in players to pick for each position. And then a balance between age and experience needs to be considered for the long term and short term benefit of the team.

From: Mickyster

To: Mr J
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Doing write ups for games is a great toll to encourage others in the community to be interested in the Nt side and then to be interested in training players for it. I would make sure write ups are done and also with help of others add some extra features like history of players in the NT side. Learning about how these players came about including talk to their coaches about how they were trained would be of great benefit for coaches interested in being able to train a player.
Training a NT player is a lot of commitment for a coach. Guys in ABBL needs these type of guys to play for them but can find it difficult to find training minutes for them. While other teams who are freer to train would struggle to afford them.
Anything that can be done to engage old and new coaches would be of benefit to the team.
I would like to get those who have trained current NT players if they are willing to offer their support to guys trying to finish off the next bunch of players in same position. Their experience would not only help with training plans but also help keep these coaches motivated to keep going.

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Date: 3/7/2013 8:53:05 AM
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Yes I understand that but if you look at the current squad there isn't that case at the moment we haven't got that problem Mansfield will be replace by walker and bogan who are younger. The squad currently has that but I'd much prefer two 32 year olds with that greater experience being in a championship game on the final seconds. I understand trading out a 33/34 year old with decking skills for a player who is 27/28 as they will still be gaining skills while the other player is declining.

The current team I wouldn't change this season drastically if at all. Next season there maybe 1 or 2 changes but there are currently players to step straight up this is when you usually find a good 26+ guy with skills to make it that's when they'll start to see game time and see growth in experience

I'd also prefer two 32 year olds in proficient game shape than a 27 yr old who swaps and changes in gameshape week to week.

I believe the best players should play and they are usually between the ages of 27 and 32 and have a dedicated manager that will keep gameshape in proficient most weeks

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From: Mr J

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Again, great responses from you both. As a voter I want to know what your plans are (short term and long term) and through your responses I feel I have a better understanding.

Will there be anyone else challenging these two?

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Gameshape is a bigger thing then skill levels. The best player in the world with poor GS will not be a good player at this level.
I would not make changes to the current squad at this stage. But as the season progresses the the younger guys develop I would look to add them when they are useful to the side. The older guys in the squad do have players ready to almost take their spot. Which is a good thing. The point I was making is that finding these next players and making sure they are ready to go is vital for the teams long term success.

At some point a older player needs to be replaced. If there is a 12 team base squad. 5 starters, 5 back ups and 2 reserves I would be looking to try and include the younger players as the 2 reserves as soon as they are ready.

The side should be picked to win the current game but there will be some chances to give select younger guys some experience. A current player might be nearing his time and there is a clear guy in line to take his place. I would look to include him in the squad and try and give him some game time even as a reserve or back up vs weaker sides we will still beat. But not till their skills are at a suitable level. Again there needs to be balance in this and each player added removed needs to be looked at carefully before any changes are made.

The players also need to fit the system of the coach. As mentioned before if the effect of the changes to LI mean teams need to play a different style the players build will also need to be altered. At present the players the side can use are limited so the coach has to make the system work with the players. I would like one day we have enough depth at NT level the players can be chosen to fit the system which will work best.

From: robhoe
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It has been pretty clearly established within the australian system of national coaching that assistants and delegation should play an important role, so my question to the candidates is

What staff roles are you planning on maintaining, or establishing as part of your structures, and how would you seek to best fill these staffing positions?

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