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The Quest to get 48 minutes training in one game

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272865.55 in reply to 272865.54
Date: 8/15/2015 3:11:17 PM
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Nope, you can ask your fellow american hrudey who has mentioned above a trainee with 2 ST who gets pulled irrespective of garbage time.


I must have missed that. Can you quote it for me?

Of course disagree about the 'effects' of GT since I think GT is not the cause of trainees getting substituted, but I completely agree on the rest.


The GT message displays, and immediately at the next stoppage all starters in the game head to the bench and stay there. They are pulled because of their status as a starter, it has nothing to do with stamina at that time or their status as a "trainee". The GE has no idea who you are going to train and what that training will be. You can disagree all you want but you really couldn't be more wrong.

Now, if your trainee is pulled at some point after the wholesale substitions take place, then it is either a stamina issue, or the game is no longer judged to be out of reach by the coach/GE.

Using SFDC, there is a direct correlation between the GT message and all starters getting substituted, simultaneously. That's what garbage time is. There are ways to prevent certain players from being substituted through active roster and lineups but the effect itself is unmistakable otherwise we wouldn't have all independently developed the same strategy for subverting it.

I have to ask, are you a native English speaker? Have you watched sporting events in real life? Is the phrase garbage time something you never heard before playing this game?

From the Wiki,https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Garbage_time
Garbage time, also known as "junk time", is a term used to refer to the period toward the end of a timed sporting event that has become a blowout when the outcome of the game has already been decided, and the coaches of one or both teams will decide to replace their best players with substitutes.[1] This serves to give those substitutes playing time experience in an actual game situation, as well as to protect the best players from the possibility of injury.[2]

How can you say that Garbage Time has no effect on substitutions, when substitutions, specifically nonstarters for starters, are literally by definition the thing that signals it has begun?

Last edited by Harold Miner at 8/15/2015 3:13:31 PM

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272865.57 in reply to 272865.56
Date: 8/15/2015 6:41:29 PM
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I know exactly what garbage time means in real life...there might be a possibility you slightly misunderstood what was being discussed (i.e. not garbage time itself, but why trainees sometimes cannot finish games and getting 48+ minutes).


My mistake.

I was looking (obviously not closely enough) at the discussion in the context of the OP not understanding why his player got subbed even though he was listed as starter, backup, and reserve. I didn't see anything wrong with SCCavsfan's initial post in its entirety, but I didn't see the misinformation angle of Phyr's comments about SCCavsfan's opening statement since blowouts lead to GT and GT means starters being replaced with available non-starters. Sorry for the misunderstanding.

I also went back and looked and I had an awful stamina guy pulled in the 48th minute of a 131-66 LI/M2M win for another starter.

I'll just go back to lurking now.

From: Chekreyes

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272865.59 in reply to 272865.20
Date: 8/18/2015 9:48:40 PM
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47 Minutes = 90%
46 Minutes = 81%
45 Minutes = 72%
44 Minutes = 65%
43 Minutes = 58%

Do you have anything like this for Single Position vs. Double Position??

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Date: 8/18/2015 10:09:50 PM
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Should be the same.

From: Chekreyes

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Date: 8/18/2015 10:46:12 PM
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I mean more in terms of...

1 pos - 100%
2 pos - ... 90%?
3 pos - ...70%?

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Date: 8/19/2015 8:55:16 AM
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It's not exact but I use the coefficient page of the training simulator to get a quick idea. You can also still access the data of the training project which the simulator is based on: http://training.bb-usa.net/

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