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That is one of the coolest things I have seen for ages. What a great achievement. The only down side with your strategy is I'll bet your fans were a bit unhappy and your income was lower than it could have been. But your costs would have been way, way low. One of my buddies hires and fires guys for scrimmages every week and then lists them for sale for just a few thousand ending on saturday night. Occasionally someone will pay $5,000 or $10,000 for one of those duds, he then fires everyone who didn't sell. This is not the way I would like to play but it is a brilliant strategy for division V. Do you regret selling off your star trainee?

I have a level 6 trainer but wouldn't have even considered it earlier. When your team is young level 4 is fine. Level 5 is beter but the increace you get for each level is diminishing. Here is some examples according to the Hungarian NT website.

Training speed - Tempódobás (védők) training (week(s)/pop) Level 4 trainer.
Name Age Height JS JR HA DRI
Mu Hongyun 19 198 cm 3.44 10.33 10.33 10.33
Vallo Tammela 24 188 cm 5.83 17.48 17.48 17.48
Kent Masters 23 201 cm 6.48 19.43 19.43 19.43
Oliver Ðuričko 23 191 cm 4.92 14.77 14.77 14.77
Neale Milton 19 198 cm 3.44 10.33 10.33 10.33
Justs Saukans 19 185 cm 2.89 8.66 8.66 8.66

Training speed - Tempódobás (védők) training (week(s)/pop) Level 5 trainer.
Name Age Height JS JR HA DRI
Mu Hongyun 19 198 cm 3.31 9.93 9.93 9.93
Vallo Tammela 24 188 cm 5.60 16.81 16.81 16.81
Kent Masters 23 201 cm 6.23 18.68 18.68 18.68
Oliver Ðuričko 23 191 cm 4.73 14.20 14.20 14.20
Neale Milton 19 198 cm 3.31 9.93 9.93 9.93
Justs Saukans 19 185 cm 2.78 8.33 8.33 8.33

Training speed - Tempódobás (védők) training (week(s)/pop) Level 6 trainer.
Name Age Height JS JR HA DRI
Mu Hongyun 19 198 cm 3.24 9.73 9.73 9.73
Vallo Tammela 24 188 cm 5.49 16.47 16.47 16.47
Kent Masters 23 201 cm 6.10 18.31 18.31 18.31
Oliver Ðuričko 23 191 cm 4.64 13.92 13.92 13.92
Neale Milton 19 198 cm 3.24 9.73 9.73 9.73
Justs Saukans 19 185 cm 2.72 8.16 8.16 8.16

So just looking at JS. If I trained JS for 14 weeks straight.
Mu would get 4 pops no matter what level trainer.
Vallo would get 2 pops no matter what level trainer.
Kent would get 2 pops no matter what level trainer.
Oliver would get 2 pops no matter what level trainer.
Neale would get 4 pops no matter what level trainer.
Justs would get 4 pops with a level 4 trainer and 5 with a level 5 or 6.

So for the entire team over an entire season I would be one pop beter. Obviously if I stuck at it long enough eventually everyone would have an extra pop. But the difference seems to be about 4% from level 4 to 5 and 2% from level 5 to 6.

My point here in all of this is not to stop people getting a high level trainer. Trust me the NT needs every pop it can get. But I just want managers to realise they don't need to morgage the team's future with a high level trainer. You can create a great NT level player as long as:

1) He has good starting skills and potential.
2) He gets training 48+ EVERY week.
3) You do single position training.

I'd recommend level 5 as a minimum if you want that U21 slot. Level 4 is fine financially, but over 4 seasons, that extra 2-3 pops in OD or Js or JR makes a huge difference.

Level 4 for one season is fine for lower division teams but they better be prepared to upgrade when the trainee is 19.

My 2 U21 players popped 4 times in 4 weeks using a level 6 trainer, 2 pops in OD and 2 in PA. It was crazy..

Iwen, India isn't Australia. The BEST big man aged 20 or less has a salary of less than $8,000 this season. I would much rather see guys trained with a level 4 trainer than not at all which is the current situation. Naturally the higher the trainer level the better, but I am just pointing out that it isn't that difficult.

wow this is a great data. I'll refer back to this data every now and then :) Can I assume that these are all two position training? or even three position training?

Last edited by Samurai_Tungi at 4/14/2011 12:29:11 AM

I played them in the league games, they were good enough to beat my crappy opposition, and then fired them before the financial update. It is cheaper than keeping them. I'd buy a new set each week, my only search criteria was that they had respectable defense and $1000 max bid, and I'd only buy guys with respectable GS or better. I only paid for my trainees, about 12k a week :)

I had to buy some half-decent guys for the playoffs though

COOOOOL :) That's what I should have done when I was in div II. That must have saved a lot of money!!!

All of those examples were for training JS for guards (two position training). If you want to check the site yourself have a look here:

http://www.buzzerbeater.hu/forum/viewtopic.php?f=22&t...

I have always been really bad at predicting pops and this site gives me at least some hint as to who is worth training and how long I can expect until I get a pop. Once you have had one pop in a skill you can start getting much more accurate in your next prediction.

Thanks. It looks useful. I'll register and play around with it later.

Do you regret selling off your star trainee?

You mean this guy (18888130)? He came with my team. He was 18 for about 2 days, then the new season ticked over. His skills weren't that great, I figured training some lower potential 18 year olds would be a better option.

My friend referred me to the game and said that it was best to join right before the draft. If I had signed up a few days later and gotten the same team then I would have a monster 18 year old!

WoooooooooW! You guys have been making a lot of noise around here! That's very cool. I don't think like being able to read all the posts, but I'll be taking part of the discussions from now on ;-).