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121568.46 in reply to 121568.45
Date: 12/12/2009 12:32:36 AM
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with a bit more inside scoring and defense he'd be priceless, like, you know
5-7 scoring 10k
15 rebounds 30k
8 assists 50k
allaround Sf, priceless

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121568.47 in reply to 121568.46
Date: 12/12/2009 3:26:21 AM
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As me and Pallu state on an other threat comparing our big men (we both training big men) we saw that driving wasnt factor at all on %, but also not on the shooting frequency. Actually we saw that the big men who are shooting more and better %, are those that have very good JS to go with IS. Also we saw that passing was big factor on that couz is giving to the player more options. If the player is a bad passer must shoot every time. Actually my worse big man shooter is the 1 who has the more driving, (around -20% from the best).

Yes driving is very cheap, but my best player right now is 3-4 pop ups to be on his softcap, so i want to train some secondary skills, and then switch to 1 position training. Training 6'5 player as a big man is painful slow... If u where in my position would u chose JS or DR? I guess that the answer is obvious.

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121568.48 in reply to 121568.46
Date: 12/12/2009 3:31:38 AM
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with a bit more inside scoring and defense he'd be priceless, like, you know
5-7 scoring 10k
15 rebounds 30k
8 assists 50k
allaround Sf, priceless :)


I'm sure we could come to an agreement on a price ;) I just hope the price we agree on is less than just 2 other rich managers value him at!!

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121568.49 in reply to 121568.48
Date: 12/12/2009 5:20:39 AM
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please do not use this thread as an advertisement thread. thanks.


as for driving: in this thread I'd say it is underrated. Driving might be useless when you face a team that neglected defense and always trained offense. When facing a strong defensive team you'll all notice driving is the edge you need to make the baskets, if you don't have driving (which create qualitatively better shots) you'll end up missing most of your attempts. That is probably the reason why the world-top teams value it so high...

Everyone overrates or underrates some skills. Also I, I only don't know which, and nobody knows of himself.
I for one, would never value passing and not even handling for a SF as higher then other skills. True he will use them, but he will also use the others. What I think he uses most is jumpshots, and ofcourse he will very often need to (help) defend. So to me it's crystal clear. He'll probably will try to block as much as he will try to give a pass, so why would blocking be less important to him???
Yes, blocking is an other, overly underrrated attribute. I trained blocking this week, and my opponent will have known it, if not this evening, then tomorrow! HAH !!! (crazy cackeling laugh) ...

:)

A SF should have no skill under inept, none at all. Until all skills are at least inept, I wouldn't train anything else until that is reached, only then he can develop into a valuable SF, and from there on, the max difference between his highest and his lowest skill should also be max 5.
That doesn't mean a SF who doesn't comply to this will not perform good, on contrary, I played pure PFs at SF more then a few times when facing an inside team, in which case it was better then using my regular SFs.
But the perfect SF, does comply, that's just my vision ofcourse.

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121568.50 in reply to 121568.49
Date: 12/12/2009 7:32:06 AM
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its a question of training speed... i trained a guy for the german national team since 6 seasons. i tried to make him an allrounder, and think this worked pretty well though i would make things different if i had the knowledge i have now.
he had good starting skills except blocking (atrocious/1) what is still is only malus and ever will be.

if i could start again, i would give him 3-4 more levels blocking when he is 18-19y but with almost 24years and 6'4'' i guess it would be wasted trainingtime to do it now if i think of how long it took to train him in reb/is and id even when he was younger than now.

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Date: 12/12/2009 7:54:11 AM
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About blocking. Lets say that u r blocking 1 shot. Whats the possibilities after that? 1)Go outbounds 2)Go on the opponents hands 3) Gain the ball. That means that are 66% for the opponents to get the ball again. Well i will invest then on the good D, and on the good rebounds, couz those are skills we all train, and for my point of view from a missed shot the team has much higher chances to get the ball. Thats why i consider the SB the least important skill.

About the driving maybe u r right, but unfortunately i have nothing to give me a reason to believe it. All indications shows the opposite.

Last edited by JohnnyB at 12/12/2009 7:54:44 AM

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121568.52 in reply to 121568.50
Date: 12/12/2009 7:54:19 AM
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My player will try to overcome all mentioned variants.
Vadim Guchenko (10859790)
Power Forward
Weekly salary: $ 7 922

DMI: 128800
Age: 18
Height: 6'8" / 203 cm
Potential: MVP
Game Shape: proficient

Jump Shot: respectable Jump Range: respectable
Outside Def.: average Handling: respectable
Driving: respectable Passing: respectable
Inside Shot: proficient Inside Def.: proficient
Rebounding: proficient Shot Blocking: respectable
Stamina: inept Free Throw: average

Experience: pitiful

First I will raise OD, then JR, though I don't have an exact plan..

We are the ones who wanna play, always wanna go but we never wanna stay
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121568.53 in reply to 121568.52
Date: 12/12/2009 8:10:25 AM
Aussie Pride
ABBL
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Awesome looking player, wish i had a trainee like that.

Last edited by aussie dude at 12/12/2009 8:11:55 AM

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121568.54 in reply to 121568.53
Date: 12/12/2009 8:16:27 AM
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Well he was the best player coming from the draft in this season...

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121568.55 in reply to 121568.51
Date: 12/12/2009 9:11:28 AM
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About blocking. Lets say that u r blocking 1 shot. Whats the possibilities after that? 1)Go outbounds 2)Go on the opponents hands 3) Gain the ball. That means that are 66% for the opponents to get the ball again. Well i will invest then on the good D, and on the good rebounds, couz those are skills we all train, and for my point of view from a missed shot the team has much higher chances to get the ball. Thats why i consider the SB the least important skill.

About the driving maybe u r right, but unfortunately i have nothing to give me a reason to believe it. All indications shows the opposite.


never saw the ball got blocked outbounds, and i also don't think that the opponent catch 50% of the offensiv boards - so i didn't see the point that a block is in 66% useless i would say in the most time you get the ball for yourself maybe around 80% through the defensiv board.

In my eyes blocks are to rare, so that it make more sense to train the defence, which works everytime. the big questionmark in this theory are the reflected shots, who are harder to convert for the opposing team the thing is how effective they are and how often they appear if you ask is blocking sensefull.

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121568.56 in reply to 121568.55
Date: 12/12/2009 10:33:00 AM
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Well my theory was a simple thoughts. You right about the ball going outbounds but as u said D works every time, and blocks are rare

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