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If it were me, I would not train anymore passing this season. Giving him passing only increases his weekly wage without making him that much better of a player.

The skills I would suggest to train are:
JR/JS/PA/OD

JR will make him a better guard without increasing his wage too much. I would train him until he's 29.

18 12
18 20
20 11
13 10
8 3

This will put him at a wage of 138K.

The reason I suggest this over training him at the center position is that he has very high potential and that he is 26. At his current age he is much more useful playing near his primary position.

I would like to put in my 2 cents just because i wanted to help out a little....

From my past experiences, training SF takes dedication and hard work, and being lucky with injuries as well. In the TL I bought this guy for 11k (he had some pretty huge holes). Although he had major holes I was dedicated enough to fix them. For me i usually value defense the most on Small Forwards then anyone else. Because at the end of the day to me, if you can stop the opposing players' SF to nearly nothing, thats a win there. Here he is:

10/7/13/11/9/8-12/12/12/8

I know, passing is the major hole there, sadly I didn't have time to work around it and well he's nearly capped. Gonna work on finishing out his jump shot and then touch up on OD ID IS and call it a day. Again, I know passing a very big issue there and it will probably be a liability come Division 2, but my strategy was to create a more unique SF, a SF that has more IS then JS, because I always believed that the "usual" Small Forwards have more OD then ID. And that more SFs are usually SGs instead of PFs. So instead of passing i wanted to go the unique way and do a Inside Scoring SF to make up for that passing, so if in any case he does have to shoot, at least it's a decent shot inside.

So I'd have to say, with 11k I think i did myself well

~those are my 2 cents, maybe this little advice does help other players.


edt: P.S. I like rebounding on SFs too, maybe 11 woulda been enough but in terms of rebounds I think like this: If you have a good defense but cannot get the rebound, then you will ultimately lose. GOod defense and rebounds will get you A LOT more shots, and even with a semi-good offense, you can win games with great rebounding and defense.

Last edited by tough at 6/16/2014 11:58:14 PM

tough>

You make a good argument for rebounding. My thought on rebounding is that it can be trained by someone else.

In that I would perceive that there will be more players on the market who can rebound then there are players that excel at ID/OD in combo.

I figure I can buy a cheap inside player that can rebound without too much issue to support a SF that may not have much RB skill.

However, I do think that 10-12 Rebounding is decent and worth consideration from the SF position. I think your SF will work out well. Well done. Like you said, it may be a little underskilled for Div 2. However, he will make a great backup. I wouldn't be too concerned on passing...its more of a luxury than a need IMO.

Hi Folks,

May I get your comments/advises regarding what should be the next step to my trainee?
He looks like this at age 23 with height 190cm, and his potential is 8. I could only train him with lvl 4 trainer and just got recently my lvl 5 a few weeks ago.

Jump Shot: prolific (11) Jump Range: average (6)
Outside Def.: prolific (11) Handling: respectable (7)
Driving: strong (8) Passing: proficient (9)
Inside Shot: prolific (11) Inside Def.: wondrous (14)
Rebounding: proficient (9) Shot Blocking: inept (4)
Stamina: mediocre (5) Free Throw: mediocre (5)

Thanks,
Sz.

If you want him to be a SF you need more OD.

With his height that should train rather quickly.

I'd go OD next season. I'm not sure how much you will get, but perhaps 17-18 OD should be a goal.

Then the next 2 seasons I would suggest one on one forwards.

I'm not sure where to go from there. Maybe some more passing. But otherwise for his height he looks good to go with the above.

My first impression is that JR of 4 & SB of 4 are going to limit your player's usefulness. Why pay for Wondrous JS if you don't have any range? IMO, a SF needs to be able to do what SGs do as well as what PFs do.

My perfect SF would look like this:
16 12
17 16
15 14
18 15
9 9

how to build such a player, I do not know

He definitely need more OD, and guard skills in general. I would recommend some 1v1 Forwards to bring up his HA/DR to about 11-12 each (and hope for an IS pop or two). From there, you should work on his OD, Passing, and JR.

He definitely has plenty of ID and adequate REB, so for the moment you can probably consider his inside skills done (I'd like to see more shot blocking, but at his age, other skills are probably more important).

The exact skills to shoot for are going to depend on what kind of offence you want to run. If you are going to run an inside based offence, he needs more IS, Passing, and Driving. If you want to play outside, he needs more JS, JR, and Passing. If you want him to just be a lock-down defender, then just focus on OD and SB.

I would recommend getting him to 12 DR/HA, 15 OD, 10 JR, and 12 Passing, in that order. I'm not sure how long that will take you, but you could train more in whatever area you want him to focus on.

My first impression is that JR of 4 & SB of 4 are going to limit your player's usefulness. Why pay for Wondrous JS if you don't have any range? IMO, a SF needs to be able to do what SGs do as well as what PFs do.

My perfect SF would look like this:
16 12
17 16
15 14
18 15
9 9

how to build such a player, I do not know

I have seen some guys around 6-4 to 6-8 with similar skill sets. They need to have good secondaries in the inside stats to make it work.

I know having high JS without much JR is an issue. However, I had a player from season 23-26 who is in my hall of fame. He had: 18/6/6/15/17/6 stats at age 36...after he dropped in some skills. His rating was around 11.5. He could shoot very well from the field and averaged close to 50% at age 34/35 against Div IV competition. His three point shot fell considerably when I got to Div III.

Bascially I agree it is kinda a waste to have JS without JR. But I'm not going to train JR over OD...especially if I play inside or balanced offenses. He's just too old to try to do both and wasn't born ideal!

I agree it seems impossible to create. But I think best bet is to wait until one of these Chinese managers build him and buy.. I have seen some amazing builds from them.

That may seem funny buy its very true. The other problem in affording him from bidding . I think something like that would be at least 3million to start maybe more..