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From: yodabig

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Date: 4/13/2011 11:22:17 AM
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Farooq has a chance to make the team considering the lack of decent big men but he does need a lot more ID and RE.

Level of coach has been so much discussed but really I don't think it is huge. I have a level 6 and I can't tell the difference from a level 5 and I heard somewhere that it is only between 2-5% anyway so that is one pop per season at most, which is naturally nice but hardly the main thing.

The two main things beyond a doubt are:

48+ minutes every week. 47 is not 98% as effective I have heard some people claim it is as bad as 80%, it just isn't good enough.

1 position training. Obviously can't be done for JS, RE and 1on1 but where possible it is essential for a NT standard player.

From: Jay_m

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Definitely try to train an 18 year old next season :)

It's easier if
1) You don't join three weeks before the end of the season.
2) Understand how poor most of the players in the draft are.

From: yodabig

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Date: 4/13/2011 11:26:34 AM
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Ram Jam Salad looks excellent for 18 however he has a long long way to go to be a SF. He has 3 big issues his JR make SG unlikley, his passing rules out PG and his RE makes SF difficult. However he has great defence already in place so with patience he can certainly be a contributor in a few seasons.

From: yodabig

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Date: 4/13/2011 11:41:50 AM
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Stephen Frankot the basketball matador was passed in tonight with no bids. He is a reasonable player for the right team, namely a team that plans to do an entire season of OD anyway.

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Date: 4/13/2011 12:56:46 PM
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one other thing I want to add...I have trainer level 6 an paying 50k salary and i bought him for 37k. I don't know if you can offered this salary but I think the benefit of level 6 is more than having level 5. and paying a little more in salary

I think at his lvl, lvl 5 trainer is more than enough. He should spend minimal income for the staff and the rest should go to arena expansion and finding trainees and some veterans.

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Date: 4/13/2011 1:22:31 PM
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Yeah I'm definitely keeping this trainer for at least two seasons. I used a fairly extreme economic strategy this season (take a look at my transfers) and it saved me a lot of money. I probably made the most cash this season out of all promoting USA Div 5 teams.

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Date: 4/13/2011 1:31:05 PM
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Why were you just buying players and firing them? For scrimmage purposes??? or is there more to it?

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Date: 4/13/2011 1:43:11 PM
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I played them in the league games, they were good enough to beat my crappy opposition, and then fired them before the financial update. It is cheaper than keeping them. I'd buy a new set each week, my only search criteria was that they had respectable defense and $1000 max bid, and I'd only buy guys with respectable GS or better. I only paid for my trainees, about 12k a week :)

I had to buy some half-decent guys for the playoffs though

From: yodabig

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Date: 4/13/2011 7:13:32 PM
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That is one of the coolest things I have seen for ages. What a great achievement. The only down side with your strategy is I'll bet your fans were a bit unhappy and your income was lower than it could have been. But your costs would have been way, way low. One of my buddies hires and fires guys for scrimmages every week and then lists them for sale for just a few thousand ending on saturday night. Occasionally someone will pay $5,000 or $10,000 for one of those duds, he then fires everyone who didn't sell. This is not the way I would like to play but it is a brilliant strategy for division V. Do you regret selling off your star trainee?

From: yodabig

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I have a level 6 trainer but wouldn't have even considered it earlier. When your team is young level 4 is fine. Level 5 is beter but the increace you get for each level is diminishing. Here is some examples according to the Hungarian NT website.

Training speed - Tempódobás (védők) training (week(s)/pop) Level 4 trainer.
Name Age Height JS JR HA DRI
Mu Hongyun 19 198 cm 3.44 10.33 10.33 10.33
Vallo Tammela 24 188 cm 5.83 17.48 17.48 17.48
Kent Masters 23 201 cm 6.48 19.43 19.43 19.43
Oliver Ðuričko 23 191 cm 4.92 14.77 14.77 14.77
Neale Milton 19 198 cm 3.44 10.33 10.33 10.33
Justs Saukans 19 185 cm 2.89 8.66 8.66 8.66

Training speed - Tempódobás (védők) training (week(s)/pop) Level 5 trainer.
Name Age Height JS JR HA DRI
Mu Hongyun 19 198 cm 3.31 9.93 9.93 9.93
Vallo Tammela 24 188 cm 5.60 16.81 16.81 16.81
Kent Masters 23 201 cm 6.23 18.68 18.68 18.68
Oliver Ðuričko 23 191 cm 4.73 14.20 14.20 14.20
Neale Milton 19 198 cm 3.31 9.93 9.93 9.93
Justs Saukans 19 185 cm 2.78 8.33 8.33 8.33

Training speed - Tempódobás (védők) training (week(s)/pop) Level 6 trainer.
Name Age Height JS JR HA DRI
Mu Hongyun 19 198 cm 3.24 9.73 9.73 9.73
Vallo Tammela 24 188 cm 5.49 16.47 16.47 16.47
Kent Masters 23 201 cm 6.10 18.31 18.31 18.31
Oliver Ðuričko 23 191 cm 4.64 13.92 13.92 13.92
Neale Milton 19 198 cm 3.24 9.73 9.73 9.73
Justs Saukans 19 185 cm 2.72 8.16 8.16 8.16

So just looking at JS. If I trained JS for 14 weeks straight.
Mu would get 4 pops no matter what level trainer.
Vallo would get 2 pops no matter what level trainer.
Kent would get 2 pops no matter what level trainer.
Oliver would get 2 pops no matter what level trainer.
Neale would get 4 pops no matter what level trainer.
Justs would get 4 pops with a level 4 trainer and 5 with a level 5 or 6.

So for the entire team over an entire season I would be one pop beter. Obviously if I stuck at it long enough eventually everyone would have an extra pop. But the difference seems to be about 4% from level 4 to 5 and 2% from level 5 to 6.

My point here in all of this is not to stop people getting a high level trainer. Trust me the NT needs every pop it can get. But I just want managers to realise they don't need to morgage the team's future with a high level trainer. You can create a great NT level player as long as:

1) He has good starting skills and potential.
2) He gets training 48+ EVERY week.
3) You do single position training.

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