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From: ZyZla

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9808.404 in reply to 9808.403
Date: 4/12/2008 7:10:14 AM
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so where would be any one who wanna buy that player for normal price, DT would never buy him, cause no profit from reselling...

(And I believe that soon there wont be any more free agents except fired NT players)

By the way I worked as manager quit a lot so I know what I`m talking...

ZyZla - ZyZlūnas ZyZlavotas ~c(=
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9808.405 in reply to 9808.402
Date: 4/12/2008 7:37:47 AM
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I saying this last time...


Maybe you need to say it many times, because it doens't add anything to the discussion?
They discussion isn't about wrong and right, or bad and good.

It's nobody's fault as well, because it's just another way to play this game.

From: Tivoli
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9808.406 in reply to 9808.405
Date: 4/12/2008 8:11:28 AM
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Now, after I read a lot of posts in this thread I changed my opion a little bit.

I´m still thinking that DT is unrealistic. But I´m not sure what the best solution is. The economy of a browser game is very complicated, so maybe we should change it in little steps.

And one step could be:

The number of transfers could be influence the fans:the income of your home games will be decrease the more players you trade.

Maybe the income of the games or merchandise products should be higher at all, and be influenced by your fan mood. And the fans don´t like it, if you sell a lot of players, especially the good ones.

My goal of that is, to have 2 different ways of economic success. One with daytrading and the other one with a team the fans love. And when the BBs could find a way to balance this 2 ways, everybody is happy :)

Its just one sugestion, but the point is, we have find a way to keep daytrading alive AND create other ways to be sucessful aswell. And it shouldn´t be possible to use both ways in one time,so they should be releated to each other.

From: ZyZla

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Date: 4/12/2008 10:43:21 AM
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I think the best and most realistic idea what I have heard in here...

ZyZla - ZyZlūnas ZyZlavotas ~c(=
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Date: 4/12/2008 10:53:46 AM
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Let's say that a good DT can get 200-300k of extra cash per week (and I've seen worse ;) )... he doesn't care if he only gets 100k from his arena when his rivals get 150k.

And even if his rival earn 250k, he will just keep on doing more market operations that week...

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Date: 4/12/2008 11:26:42 AM
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Maybe thats true. If you don´t forbit DT, someone will find a way to make a lot of profit. But I don´t think the BBs will forbit DT, so I´m searching for other solutions.

so..
if
the income of the arenas becomes WAY more important
AND is related to the wins and losses (what it is right now)
AND to the fan enthusiasm

AND the wins and losses are related to the team enthusiasm
(very hard part, because DT should still have chances to win matches)
AND the team enthusiasm is related to the numbers of transfers
AND the fan enthusiasm is related to the numbers of transfers

THAN
Daytraders will lose more games because team enthusiasm
Daytraders will lose fan enthusiasm
Daytraders will lose money from the arenas

(AND
If its necessary, you can raise the transfer fees)

So and if still some DT makes a lot of more money, as the champion ship winners without daytrading. Well, maybe they are just crazy and whatever, if they really want to spent so many time for trading - I feel sorry for them. Poor guys.




Last edited by Tivoli at 4/12/2008 11:35:47 AM

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9808.411 in reply to 9808.410
Date: 4/12/2008 1:02:18 PM
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I'll just note that if 'income from arena becomes more important' that is will not necessarily help with trading. Trading profits will probably increase proportionally because of the larger amount of money floating in the market.


Hmm, honestly - I haven´t seen this point. But, maybe there is another way without floating more money into the system.

I´ll think about it.

Btw I know there is no fan enthusiasm. I´m just thinking loud about different solutions.

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Date: 4/12/2008 1:10:27 PM
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Btw I know there is no fan enthusiasm.


I wouldn't say that 100%

Although there's no visible rating, the fans DO come out in bigger numbers when you win, and when you lose they stop coming (some, anyways).

I'd say that fan enthusiasm exists in some form.

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9808.413 in reply to 9808.412
Date: 4/12/2008 1:46:26 PM
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Ok, yes you are right and I actually know it - my head is full of daytrading things. ;)



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9808.414 in reply to 9808.406
Date: 4/12/2008 7:51:22 PM
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My goal of that is, to have 2 different ways of economic success. One with daytrading and the other one with a team the fans love. And when the BBs could find a way to balance this 2 ways, everybody is happy

Its just one sugestion, but the point is, we have find a way to keep daytrading alive AND create other ways to be sucessful aswell. And it shouldn´t be possible to use both ways in one time,so they should be releated to each other.


the problem is indeed the balance. now things are quite unbalanced concerning trading vs training

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