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294109.4 in reply to 294109.3
Date: 5/9/2018 8:23:15 AM
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I don't think 53 is enough for a 9 stamina player. I'd go closer to 70 if not over. Besides it's not good to ping pong between 70+ and 50 from one week to the next and he'll be struggling to keep a 9 Stamina starter below 70 in competitive games.

They did change GS to take into account stamina when they removed blanks.

Why you think so mate? You have any arguments for this or it's just a theory, one of a lot from BB users? Can you give me a link for that?

Ideal minutes for a good GS are between 48 and 75, if the player have higher stamina, he can play a bit more minutes to stay or get in a good GS. That doesn't mean that it is better for him to play 75 mins then 50.

Aim to play each player between 48 and 75 minutes each week and you should see game shape staying on Strong or Proficient each week. There is a random factor involved in game shape though, and so you can play less than 48 minutes or more than 75 minutes and still get a pop up in game shape, however, it is much less likely. Similarly, you can play between 48 and 75 minutes and get a drop in game shape due to the random factor, but most weeks your game shape will be good.

In the end, GS is a mysterious thing in one way, you need a bit luck.

Cheers!

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294109.6 in reply to 294109.5
Date: 5/9/2018 6:28:48 PM
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I said that too, that's fine but... that doesn't mean that a player with higher ST will have a better GS when he play 75 then 48 minutes, that mean just that he can play a bit more mins then usual to have a good GS. Bit over 75.

As it is written, ideal is between 48 and 75, that mean that the minutes between those are equal. With higher stamina you can get a bit over those 75 and still be in that ideal circle.

The other part of your post is just your understanding of GS, and I respect that, but that is not in written in any rule, guide or etc.

About the massage specialist.
Massage: Players who play too many minutes in a given week will not experience as severe a drop in game shape.
It clearly prevents your player to drop hard in GS if he played too much.

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294109.9 in reply to 294109.8
Date: 5/10/2018 6:23:47 AM
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I don't think I can misunderstand something in this simple sentence
Aim to play each player between 48 and 75 minutes each week and you should see game shape staying on Strong or Proficient each week.
(144856.10) - source - Guide To BuzzerBeater + FAQ

There is nothing written like a sweet spot or anything similar like that, I have never seen it? It's just a story from users.

How did you conclude that some values are better then others. How did you conclude from it that 48 is not the same as 60 or 75?
I would really love to learn that. Any link, rule, guide, FAQ, anything?

"And the average point in that range is of course 61.5 so that's a good point to try and get to"
I must just repeat it, there is nowhere written that ideal is an average point between 48 and 75, it's just minutes between 48 and 75, there is no average word there

The specialist will just help your player not to drop his GS if he played too many mins.

I made my own research based on my club, U21 and NT team that I lead like 16 seasons.
Players respond every time different to their minutes, because there is random involved there, 48 is enough, just like 50-60-70-75 minutes, with a high stamina he can play 80, but it will not benefit him more then if he played 48.

We could see that often on players under 21y or in U21, they play often just 1 full game in a week 48+ minutes (to get full training minutes) and that's all. They have "never" problems with GS, in the other hand, there are always players who play ideal minutes based on your opinion, and they stuck at GS lvl 7 or 8.. everything is possible with GS, but as the BB-s said, simple, ideal is between 48 and 75, and yes, all those minutes between are ideal.

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294109.13 in reply to 294109.10
Date: 5/10/2018 8:39:25 AM
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Some of them have 8 stamina, that's not high for you?
As I said I'm a NT coach like 16 seasons, you think my players there got low stamina?

You just repeat that ST affects GS, yes, but in what way? Your player can play few minutes more to still stay in this "ideal circle" of minutes.

Maybe I'm wrong, that's my opinion, but when someone say to me that ideal numbers are between 1 and 5 (include those), I will tell him that those numbers are 1,2,3,4 and 5, you don't?
The same thing is with the ideal numbers between 48 and 75.

Would love if a BB or EGM could tell us more about this.

You give me this post of Marin:
Game shape depends marginally on stamina too, so high stamina players can actually have high minutes and keep a high game shape continually. Massage specialty also helps. Actually, I can't say what is the ideal minute distribution would be (as I would be revealing too much) but 75 isn't it.
Take a look at the bold part. That's how stamina effects GS.
He also say that he don't want to tell us the ideal minutes, so we can't know, we can just guess if 56 is better then 48, is 70 better then 65 and etc...

I'm not telling that my opinion is the right, it's just opinion, and no one of us don't know how exactly GS works and what is "ideal".

Regards mate.

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