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184241.395 in reply to 184241.394
Date: 5/14/2011 10:04:15 PM
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I'll take him out for a beer first. Then we can start debating lol.

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Date: 5/14/2011 10:12:28 PM
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good luck with that

Garrie Addison (18085302). The G-Adder striking blows since season 15
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Date: 5/14/2011 10:21:19 PM
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lol well your system seems to be stuck in a loop then because you've been going around in useless circles all argument :P I got dizzy last night and had to go to bed... As for AI i think my Toaster understands basketball better :P


I don't think I was going around in circles...maybe elliptical orbits ;)

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Date: 5/14/2011 10:21:42 PM
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I'll take him out for a beer first. Then we can start debating lol.


haha bring it on :P

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Date: 5/14/2011 11:30:51 PM
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I think the main thing that you're not grasping is the basketball side of things. In a standard game on BB, most teams have somewhere around 80-90 shots each so shot attempts are finite. The game i've linked was a blowout so it's a little outside of those numbers but even in a blowout with lots of turnovers, it's not that far off the 80-90 mark.

Now look at my team. Gary Howorth shot 4-19 from the field. Is that good because he scored 8 points or is it bad because he was clearly the worst shooter on the team and the shot attempts would have been better going to someone like Grgur Fatur who was 9-11 on the night and would have almost certainly made more buckets with the extra attempts that Howorth took away?

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Date: 5/14/2011 11:42:31 PM
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I think the real question is, who got the 3 votes in my game last week. That's what everyone's hanging out to see.

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Date: 5/14/2011 11:57:32 PM
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I think the main thing that you're not grasping is the basketball side of things. In a standard game on BB, most teams have somewhere around 80-90 shots each so shot attempts are finite. The game i've linked was a blowout so it's a little outside of those numbers but even in a blowout with lots of turnovers, it's not that far off the 80-90 mark.

Now look at my team. Gary Howorth shot 4-19 from the field. Is that good because he scored 8 points or is it bad because he was clearly the worst shooter on the team and the shot attempts would have been better going to someone like Grgur Fatur who was 9-11 on the night and would have almost certainly made more buckets with the extra attempts that Howorth took away?


But you are comparing that on an offensive basis. I am talking about from the defensive aspect.
If Gary Howorth had shot 0-8 and Grgur Fatur had shot 1-17, then which is better offensively?
I think the 1-17 is better than the 0-8 offensively, and consequently the person defending the 1-17 did a worse job than the person defending the 0-8 in my opinion.

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Date: 5/15/2011 12:25:45 AM
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Offensively or defensively, it's essentially the same question. If someone scores 2 points in a game but takes up 17 of the teams say 80 game shots to get those 2 points, you don't congratulate them for scoring 2 points. It's a bad effort for taking up 17 of the teams shots and only scoring on 1 of them. At least with the 0-8, he hasn't scored but he has only taken away 8 of the 80 scoring attempts instead of 16 of the 80 scoring attempts as the 1-17 example has done. The 1-17 has potentially removed 24 extra points (or more if you count 4 point plays) for his team than the 0-8 has.

To put it in real basketball terms: If Kobe Bryant goes in to one of his takeover attempts and shoots say 5-27 from the field. Is that good because he's scored 10 points or is it bad because all those missed shot attempts could have potentially been scored by Andrew Bynum, Pau Gasol, Ron Artest etc?


I have a feeling that you're just arguing for the sake of arguing now but in basketball terms, you're just wrong and you'll need to accept that. Which is what everyone except you seems to realise ;)

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Date: 5/15/2011 12:27:52 AM
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I think the real question is, who got the 3 votes in my game last week. That's what everyone's hanging out to see.


Done :)

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184241.404 in reply to 184241.402
Date: 5/15/2011 12:31:53 AM
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+1 Sir Wolf.

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Date: 5/15/2011 12:51:18 AM
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I think that the end result is what matters, and the end result is the scores, so a guy that shot 0-8 contributed nothing to the score and a guy that shot 1-17 contributed 2 to the score, so the guy that shot 1-17 was better offensively than the guy that shot 0-8 because the guy that shot 1-17 contributed more to the final score, regardless of wasted opportunities.

I think we'll just have to agree to disagree :P

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