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150972.37 in reply to 150972.36
Date: 7/11/2010 2:26:32 PM
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Yeah i wouldn't of thought players could get double training.

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150972.38 in reply to 150972.37
Date: 7/11/2010 2:28:17 PM
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They do. However the question is whether it is zeroed for that player or for that team.

Let me put it another way:
Lets say my training update occurs before yours.
You have a player for sale that has played 48 minutes at Center this past week.
But I buy this player from you after my training update has occured BUT before your training update has occured.
Will this player then still have 48 minutes because he has not taken part in any training updates by any team and so his minutes will not be on zero?

Considering gameshape updates at the same time as training does this mean that this player will not receive gameshape change?

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150972.39 in reply to 150972.38
Date: 7/11/2010 2:39:42 PM
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Let me put it another way:
Lets say my training update occurs before yours.
You have a player for sale that has played 48 minutes at Center this past week.
But I buy this player from you after my training update has occured BUT before your training update has occured.
Will this player then still have 48 minutes because he has not taken part in any training updates by any team and so his minutes will not be on zero?

Then you get zero training:D Because you miss both trainings... It will show 48 minutes and will get cleared when the next game starts.
Now if I would buy a player from you after you have completed your training, it will show 0 for minutes played this week. Someone could ofcourse test this theory, but I am pretty sure BB-s have thought about people trying to abuse this loophole, that's why they zero the minutes after training.

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150972.40 in reply to 150972.39
Date: 7/11/2010 2:48:19 PM
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You said they zero the minutes after training. But if a player is sold from you to me before your training and after my training then the player's minutes will not go to zero right?
I agree that you would get no training, what I am saying is that you would also get no gameshape change.
And because the minutes do not go to zero, all games that are played during the following week would add on to the current 48 minutes. So if you played 48 minutes the coming week you would then have played 96 minutes at the gameshape update the following friday.

Make sense?

You said that because I miss both trainings, it will show 48 and get cleared when the next game starts. Why do you think that the next game erases the minutes?

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150972.41 in reply to 150972.11
Date: 7/11/2010 4:03:07 PM
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A player can pop in multiple skills obviously. But the same skill cannot have 2 pops in 1 week. If this were possible it would mean that the skill trained received an increase of 1.0 minimum. This would mean that you would experience a pop every week if you trained that skill. But no skill does this. Therefore, no individual skill can pop twice in the same week :)


That's not exactly correct. I once had two separate players pop three times in a row during the same three week period. And I wasn't even doing single position training. I was training rebounding.

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150972.42 in reply to 150972.41
Date: 7/11/2010 4:12:46 PM
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That is possible.
For example consider this:
Initial skill of rebounding starts at 7.99
Then lets say that you get 0.7 skill increase for rebounding due to trainer level and height of player and age of player.
After 1 week you would get a pop and you would be at 8.69 skill level for rebounding.
After another week you would get a pop and you would be at 9.39 skill level for rebounding.
After another week you would get a pop and you would be at 10.09 skill level for rebounding.

So I showed you that you can get 1 pop in the same skill over 3 consecutive weeks.
However, if the skill amount received was 1.0 you would receive a pop every single week forever.
This is not true for any skill.

I am willing to bet that on your fourth week of rebounding training you did not get a pop, and most certainly not on your fifth if you did manage to get one on your fourth.

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150972.43 in reply to 150972.42
Date: 7/11/2010 4:21:45 PM
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You showed me nothing. Sorry. You described the worst case scenario. And it didn't even take into effect the added benefit of single position training. It is much more likely that I got between .8 to .9 pops that week, and it was with two position training.

From: Kukoc

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150972.44 in reply to 150972.43
Date: 7/11/2010 4:29:07 PM
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You do know that different skills train with different speeds? I am also pretty sure none of the single pos training gives 1.00+ skill level to one skill. We can argue how much 1on1 and handling training total would be, but one skill does not raise by 1.00+.

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150972.45 in reply to 150972.40
Date: 7/11/2010 4:32:25 PM
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You miss both trainings, but have you ever checked when do the zeros get cleaned from the board. It seems to me it's the saturdays league game that swipes the board clean. Perhaps that's how BB-s clean out the trades that happen between 1-st training of BB - the last training of BB, in that week.

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150972.46 in reply to 150972.45
Date: 7/11/2010 4:36:51 PM
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Minutes get zeroed for me on Fridays at the training update. That is when the "Weekly stats" and all minutes there get wiped.

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