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Here's my guy:
Kaliranjan "Ram Jam Salad" Selladurai

Age: 18
Height: 6'6" / 198 cm
Potential: allstar
Game Shape: strong

Jump Shot: respectable Jump Range: inept
Outside Def.: proficient ↑ Handling: strong
Driving: awful Passing: awful
Inside Shot: mediocre Inside Def.: strong
Rebounding: inept Shot Blocking: respectable
Stamina: inept Free Throw: mediocre

I'm pretty happy with the way he's progressing, he's actually my "worst" SF trainee. I bought a superior trainer last week ($16 000 salary for $215 000) so I expect plenty more pops next season.

He has a bunch of high sublevels (JR, PA, IS, ID, RB). He'll have 12 OD and 9 ID by Allstar break next season. I don't know the skills of the U21 players but hopefully he can earn a spot sometime next season.

Last edited by Johnson at 4/13/2011 9:03:50 AM

WHA!? You bought a superior trainer only for 215k? I know that during this time the trainers are sold cheap but I didn't expect them to be sold this cheap...I bought 15.5k trainer 2 weeks ago for 312k...I should have waited a little more :P

But remember that the difference between lvl 4 and lvl 5 trainer is not very large. People say that the lvl 5 trainer gives you extra 2-3 pops over the course of 2 seasons. But ofc depending on the sublevels, I'm sure it can give extra 4-5 pops.

Now your player. He's improved compared to the beginning of this season. Are you planning to make him a well balanced SF or outside oriented SF or inside oriented SF? It'll take quite a lot of time to make him into a well balanced SF, so I don't wecommend this option. plus his potential is allstar, so if you're thinking of training him for a long time, then you should focus on either outside or inside.
It will take about 6 weeks to reach 12 OD and probably 2 weeks to reach 9 ID. Whether you want to make him inside or outside oriented player is up to you. But if I were you, I'd probably go for outside cuz his height is not too bad for guards, and his guard skills are better (except his JR).
I hope you're considering to train his JR as well. Better to train that when he's young cuz it takes ages to train at older ages.
Btw this is my SF, who's on the U-21 NT. I'm eventually thinking of making him a SG, who can sometimes play as SF, when using outside focused tactics. Currently in U-21, he plays at SF position.

Jump Shot: sensational Jump Range: strong
Outside Def.: sensational Handling: respectable
Driving: proficient Passing: average
Inside Shot: respectable Inside Def.: strong
Rebounding: average Shot Blocking: average
Stamina: strong Free Throw: strong

He's turning 21 next season, so it'll be a pain to train his JR...i got him as my draftee when I didn't know how the training worked, so i wasted half a season of training. But he's come a long way and he's not doing that bad.

some points I want to make

-If you are training player, aim for some level and dont stop train that skil until he reach it. what im saying dont train 2 weaks that 2 weeks another training. The best managers in iceland at least follow what i said.

-You dont need to train SB for any player...thats wais fo weaks in training. at least when player is young and you want the main skills as high as passable.

-training an SF is beautiful thing:) but if you want balanced you have to have MVP poteintal or higher...if the player has lower poteintal than you should focus on inside or outside SF and make the hight say what he will be.

Tungi your player is good for SF at U21 level both on inside attack and outside. in the future he will be SG or SF with outside tactic in mind as you said.

This is just my point of view :)

Your guy is great. He doesn't look very Indian, was he adopted? :P

I got lucky with that trainer purchase. There were less than 400 managers online, and I swear the auction was only extending by 1 minute for every new bid. I monitored the auction of a superior trainer that was purchased about 30 minutes after my guy, he was 19k and sold for over 400k :)

I'm training OD this week. Then ID next week and he will pop to proficient (I'm letting my opponent win game 2 of the finals so I get 3 training games). Next season I'm training Pressure for the first 6 weeks (he will reach sensational OD after 5), Rebounding for the Allstar break, then 2 weeks Inside Shot followed by 2 more weeks of OD. Depending on my playoff situation I'll train RB and IS for the last 3 weeks of the season.

For his 20 y.o season I'll train 1-position stuff again, for the last time. I haven't decided what I want his defense to look like (probably 14 OD and 12 ID), so I'll just be rounding him off with OD, ID, PA, JR or whatever.

I'm going to train him 3 seasons on single-position skills, so when he is 21 he will be able to play SF/PF for my team and I can just blast Jumpshot and 1on1 for forwards until he caps. I'm guessing he'll cap sometime during his 5th season of training, and I will have a great player (3 actually) ;)

But then I'll have to sell one or two of them :(

Four emoticons in one post... that's got to be a record for me.

Well that way of training has pros and cons. If you intend to have 16 OD for example and the current OD is at 7, that means you'll have to train OD forever. Ofc when he's young, that's not a big deal but I think there should be some kind of balance. Also especially due to the positions of the training. You don't want a player to have atrocious passing when he's being trained on OD one position as PG. So I don't think training to the point you want it to be is the best idea.
However, that said, I do a similar sort of training. I'm not those managers out there who switches the skills often. I usually stick to one skill and train until when I judge that it has reached its sufficient level at that moment. So I have a similar approach in that sense.

I think SB is useful, but just not as much as other skills. But I do believe that SB is actually making some difference, it's just not evident in the match. Throwing in some SB training isn't a bad idea in my opinion.

Well you can still have a balanced SF at allstar potential. it's just that he won't be useful in higher divs because his overall skills will be too low. But even in higher div and in U-21 NT level, perennial allstar/superstar potential should do in my opinion.

Funny how you guys in Iceland hate SB. I have never trained bigs but one of my buddies trained this player who is on the U21 team right now (and has the 2nd highest salary on the team) and when he trained SB the Iceland coach yelled at him.

Tinni Flosason (13699240)
Center
Owner: The Blackests Sheeps
Weekly salary: $ 39 092
Age: 21
Height: 7'0" / 213 cm
Potential: allstar

I would love to have him on our team next season.

one other thing I want to add...I have trainer level 6 an paying 50k salary and i bought him for 37k. I don't know if you can offered this salary but I think the benefit of level 6 is more than having level 5. and paying a little more in salary

Farooq has a chance to make the team considering the lack of decent big men but he does need a lot more ID and RE.

Level of coach has been so much discussed but really I don't think it is huge. I have a level 6 and I can't tell the difference from a level 5 and I heard somewhere that it is only between 2-5% anyway so that is one pop per season at most, which is naturally nice but hardly the main thing.

The two main things beyond a doubt are:

48+ minutes every week. 47 is not 98% as effective I have heard some people claim it is as bad as 80%, it just isn't good enough.

1 position training. Obviously can't be done for JS, RE and 1on1 but where possible it is essential for a NT standard player.

Definitely try to train an 18 year old next season :)

It's easier if
1) You don't join three weeks before the end of the season.
2) Understand how poor most of the players in the draft are.

Ram Jam Salad looks excellent for 18 however he has a long long way to go to be a SF. He has 3 big issues his JR make SG unlikley, his passing rules out PG and his RE makes SF difficult. However he has great defence already in place so with patience he can certainly be a contributor in a few seasons.