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Hi guys , what kind of Small Forward do you like best?

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121568.32 in reply to 121568.30
Date: 12/11/2009 8:14:15 PM
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I believe that OD is more important then ID,the ideal for me is 13OD 11 of ID considering that SF training is really tough

I think peoplle are not giving much credit for IS,if you want your player to do well in any tactic you have to train IS at least to 10,driving for me is really secondary ,do all the outside training and then ,if you will ,give some driving training but 9 is good enough for me,especially if you team has good passers

PA and RB for me should stay at 10 or 11,they are very usefull

I think thats it,dont need to mention JS and SB the first one very important, minimum 12 ,the other dont need training

for me the question for the trainers should be on the ofensive side,give more JS/JR or IS and for me thats personal




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Date: 12/11/2009 9:28:54 PM
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Huang Rugui (10841727) Small Forward


Weekly salary: $ 5 811

DMI: 48200
Age: 18
Height: 6'4" / 193 cm
Potential: superstar
Game Shape: strong
Jump Shot: strong Jump Range: respectable
Outside Def.: mediocre Handling: proficient ↑
Driving: average ↑ Passing: pitiful
Inside Shot: atrocious Inside Def.: strong
Rebounding: respectable Shot Blocking: awful
Stamina: average Free Throw: mediocre

Experience: atrocious

my SMALL forward, how do u like him?


First of all Driving is not useless, It effects how open you are when you shoot. A person like Lebron has great driving, he is not the best shooter what so ever, but he knows how to take easy open shots by driving and becoming open, which makes him a great scorer. One on One, is great training, and can help train a multitude of players. I would bet that Inside Shot, and Shot blocking are the least important skills to train unless your SF is inside orientated. However, I believe the best Small forward is weighted towards being outside oriented.

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Date: 12/11/2009 9:44:49 PM
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Also,
http://www.buzzerbeater.com/player/4153861/overview.aspx
Ramiro Menares (4153861) Point Guard


Ramiro Menares (4153861) Point Guard


Owner: bliach#bliachFC

Weekly salary: $ 9 859

DMI: 34400
Age: 24
Height: 6'1" / 185 cm
Potential: allstar *
Game Shape: respectable
Jump Shot: sensational Jump Range: inept
Outside Def.: average Handling: wondrous
Driving: prodigious Passing: average
Inside Shot: average Inside Def.: respectable
Rebounding: pitiful Shot Blocking: awful
Stamina: respectable ↑ Free Throw: mediocre

Experience: average



He has a 50 percent, shots, and threes, this is because he is open when he is shooting, not because he has good jump shot and good jump range! thats what i think

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121568.35 in reply to 121568.33
Date: 12/11/2009 9:47:26 PM
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First, let me say that BB and real life do not always mix (in regards to your reference about Lebron).

The pitiful passing and mediocre outside d hurt, plus the atrocious inside shot. Sure, if you plan to only use outside tactics, the atrocious inside shot might be ok. But even for an outside focused SF, I would still want average inside shot.

Again, I want to come back to salaries. Inside shot costs nothing in salary for a SF. If I'm looking for one to buy off the TL, there is not way I'm giving up free skills, especially ones that are useful.

Run of the Mill Canadian Manager
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Date: 12/11/2009 9:50:10 PM
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He has a 50 percent, shots, and threes, this is because he is open when he is shooting, not because he has good jump shot and good jump range! thats what i think


I'm sure the driving helps, but so does the fact that he is facing some low rate outside defenders.

Run of the Mill Canadian Manager
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Date: 12/11/2009 10:15:51 PM
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First, let me say that BB and real life do not always mix (in regards to your reference about Lebron).

The pitiful passing and mediocre outside d hurt, plus the atrocious inside shot. Sure, if you plan to only use outside tactics, the atrocious inside shot might be ok. But even for an outside focused SF, I would still want average inside shot.

Again, I want to come back to salaries. Inside shot costs nothing in salary for a SF. If I'm looking for one to buy off the TL, there is not way I'm giving up free skills, especially ones that are useful.



I understand that my passing is weak.

This is why i love training Driving thou, because it trains Driving and Handling fairly fast and also pops inside and outside shot, if you train one on one forwards. This is why i believe that if alternate training OD and One on One forwards that i will develop a great player fast, i have been taking screen shots of the effect of all my trainees and have about 3 weeks of data i hope to use it all to learn and inform other players what i learn.

"Training One on One
Guards:
Trains DV @ 2-3 weeks
Trains HN @ 3-4 weeks
Trains JS @ 3-4 weeks

Forwards:
Trains DV @ 1.8 weeks
Trains HN @ 2.3 weeks
Trains IS @ 4-5 weeks
Trains JS @ 4-5 weeks"



Last edited by Shaft Master at 12/11/2009 10:43:39 PM

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121568.38 in reply to 121568.36
Date: 12/11/2009 10:21:37 PM
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lol well I used that guy as an exaggeration, but how about this guy,
http://www.buzzerbeater.com/player/2766529/overview.aspx

or this guy

http://www.buzzerbeater.com/player/2412209/overview.aspx


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Date: 12/11/2009 10:31:25 PM
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They are both SG and would only be decent as a SF when you play outside tactics or want to strengthen your outside defence. I generally prefer SF with good passing as it helps with team offensive flow and gives you more assists.

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Date: 12/11/2009 10:44:14 PM
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lol sorry i wasnt arguing they are good SF, just that that driving is important

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121568.41 in reply to 121568.22
Date: 12/11/2009 11:16:23 PM
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These are my favourite skill weights for a SF:

JS: .15
JR: .08
OD: .14
PA: .10
DR: .10
HD: .10
IS: .08
ID: .10
RB: .08
SB: .01


I've got this guy who is almost on the money as you describe.

Jump Shot: wondrous Jump Range: respectable
Outside Def.: tremendous Handling: prolific
Driving: prolific Passing: proficient
Inside Shot: strong Inside Def.: proficient
Rebounding: strong Shot Blocking: average
Stamina: average Free Throw: awful
Experience: mediocre

Give me a couple more weeks to get his OD/ID up and make me an offer :D

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121568.42 in reply to 121568.41
Date: 12/11/2009 11:19:58 PM
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get his Inside shot and def up and... well I don't have the money to make an offer... but if I did, the sky would be the limit

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