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Part of the deal is to make the teams with less talent better, and to pull the best teams back a bit, that's basically the concept of a draft.

I don't see how giving a team a bad player pulls the already good team back?

My view on the draft is that it gives the bad teams a couple of really good players and gives the top teams a couple of bad players.

The bad players do not have to be untrainable as well as having bad stats.

I think you should be able to see the age of the players without having to scout them. Age is basic info that anyone would know.

The problem is that if we give the age, people will be able to share information with those that have not done any scouting. Any ideas how we could prevent this?

How about for people who haven't scouted, they see an age range. Like 18-20 or 20-22.

Edited 6/10/2007 7:16:06 PM by Vikman

That doesn't solve the problem of those who have scouted giving out that info

But it would halve the chance of people being able to associate skills with a single player based on age.

Have you guys thought about the ramifications of having a draft where the team with the worst record gets a higher draft pick and thus (presumably) the better players? I just wanted to point out that this creates a huge incentive to throw games towards the end of the season.

Obviously this motivation exisits to a certain extent in the NBA, but the integrity of the players on the court and fear of retribution from the fans and/or the league keeps even the worst teams from outright throwing games. That is not the case here.

I point out that in HT there is no draft and thus no incentive to finish lower in a series. In fact, in HT it's quite the opposite as there are bonuses paid to the higher finishing team and there is also relegation to worry about.

With only two divisions in most countries, relegation isn't really a consideration here. I am not aware of any bonuses for where a team finishes in its league, but maybe they exist (or will exist) at the end of the season.

Also, the incentive to throw games is greater if the draft is composed of a few players who are clearly better than the others (as is typically the case in the real NBA draft). If the skills of all the players in the draft is roughly equal, then this isn't as big an issue (but this of course decreases the value of scouting).

Maybe the answer is that each set of 48 players should consist of 16 players who are roughly equal but have "first round talent", 16 players who are roughly equal but have "second round talent", and 16 players who are roughly equal but have "third round talent". This would reduce the incentive to tank games to improve draft position while still rewarding scouting.

For example, the last place team (who picks first) will be able to identify one of the 16 "first round" talents even with just a minimal amount of scouting. Where scounting is especially valuable for the last place team is at the beginning of the second round, where that team could get a "first round" talent who one of the other teams overlooked in the first round.

Similarly, for the first place team (who drafts last), scounting would be important to allow them to identify the remaining "first round" talent or talents when it is their turn to pick at the end of the first round.

Relegation is not a concern yet, but it will be for sure already in the next season. The prizes in the league are not implemented yet (saw it in another topic on the forum), but might be in the future. We don't have yet here the indication of how pleased your fans are, but it was already said also that if you are doing bad will affect your merchandise revenue.

And also i believe that being the last one in the league will not guarantee you in the top of the draft. You will just have higher probability of being the first. Check out what happened on NBA on the first 2 drafts they had with these rules:

"The Magic defied the new lottery odds by winning the No. 1 pick two years in a row. In 1992, the weighted system worked in their favor as they parlayed the second-worst record (21-61) into LSU center Shaquille O'Neal. O'Neal helped Orlando make a 20-win improvement and the Magic just missed the playoffs at .500 in 1993. With just one chance out of 66, the Magic scored the No. 1 pick yet again and selected Michigan forward Chris Webber, trading him immediately to the Warriors for the draft rights to the No. 3 pick, Memphis guard Penny Hardaway and three future draft picks."

This year, Portland had only 5.3 percent chance of getting the first pick...

To sum up, I would not throw any games... The draft positioning will not be guaranteed, and the difference between being 8th, 7th or 6th is huge when fighting against relegation.

Edited 6/21/2007 12:18:04 AM by arvie7

Also, the players are not going to have excellent stats. The players I believe at most will be at the respectable level in some traits. That's not a good enough player to throw games.

one sugestion: perhaps the training page could should how many players we have scouted this season so far...

When is the draft?