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44843.3 in reply to 44843.2
Date: 8/14/2008 2:55:17 PM
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A MVP should be able to carry his team to the playoffs no matter how worse his team is imo.

Just like LeBron James did with the Cavs.

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Date: 8/14/2008 3:31:52 PM
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A MVP should be able to carry his team to the playoffs no matter how worse his team is imo.
And if there isn't any such player (which is normally the case) who should be crowned MVP then? To you suggest that in most BB leagues no player should be crowned MVP?

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Date: 8/14/2008 5:15:56 PM
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Hi there,

This season the MVP Trophy in my league was won by a player from a team who didn't even reach the playoffs. How do you guys think about that?

Imo the MVP should always be in a Playoff Team.


I don't think the selections should be boxed in like that.

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44843.6 in reply to 44843.4
Date: 8/15/2008 5:39:41 AM
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To you suggest that in most BB leagues no player should be crowned MVP?


Wow, you have a strange way of concluding things.

To answer this question, of course not. I didn't say that the only parameter for a MVP should be that he carried a terrible team to the playoffs, it's just one of many.



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Date: 8/15/2008 5:50:47 AM
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It might be be missunderstanding what you said, by I interpret this

A MVP should be able to carry his team to the playoffs no matter how worse his team is imo.


like you are suggesting that only players that are able to carry a team (almost) by them self to the playoffs. The consequense of this for most leagues wuld be that there are no worthy MVP players, but of course you might mean something else with the statement, even though I fail to see what you mean in that case.

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44843.8 in reply to 44843.7
Date: 8/15/2008 11:02:48 AM
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first should the MVP be based on the Season or on the Playoffs??

Most VALUABLE Player= probably should go to player who, buy his own ability, carries his team to Finals of Playoffs, if not the Title

Most OUTSTANDING Player= The guy who had the most outstanding season, regardless of how his team did.

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44843.9 in reply to 44843.8
Date: 8/15/2008 11:35:23 AM
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I don't agree that it should be limited to that. Suppose that a player has carried his team so it does not relegate while without him they would have relegated. I think this kind off performance should make him eligable for an MVP.

As an example I won my league this year, but there is most defintely no standout player in my squad, so why should any of my players beat the player in the example above?

In american professional sports, e.g. the NBA, where the leagues are closed avoiding relegation is no feat, while here it most definitely is, so this should be taken into account when deciding the MVP, otherwise it should be renamed to MVPPT (Most Valubale Player in a Playoff Team).

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44843.10 in reply to 44843.7
Date: 8/15/2008 4:17:38 PM
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like you are suggesting that only players that are able to carry a team (almost) by them self to the playoffs. The consequense of this for most leagues wuld be that there are no worthy MVP players, but of course you might mean something else with the statement, even though I fail to see what you mean in that case.


Are you serious? Or are you just joking?

There is a huge difference between this; "A MVP should be able to carry his team to the playoffs" and this "There should only be a MVP if all players in the team except the MVP are terrible so that the team normally shouldn't be in the playoffs at all."


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44843.12 in reply to 44843.11
Date: 8/15/2008 4:36:34 PM
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MVP depends on team record and player stats. Not on whether the team is in the playoffs or not.


Yeah that's a great oneliner. But in many sports the MVP comes from teams who reach far in tournaments/off season.
Check out soccer for example. Van der Sar is probably (one of) the best goalkeepers in the world. He played perfect last EC. But who got the title of the best goalkeeper? Right Cassilas.
Why is that? Cassilas made 2 terrible mistake, 2 goals due to his mistakes. The Netherlands washed away Italy and France in the 1st and the 2nd game, with great soccer. 4th game, the quarter finals, they had a off-day, played terrible and were eliminated. Only Sneijder was in the EC2008 Dreamteam.

I believe i've never seen a MVP in the NBA from a non playoff team (i'm happy to see if anyone got one)

About the Big 8 Great 8 thing, good point, although you can only expect he would have been in the PO in the other conference, he might have finished 3rd there.

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