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178232.294 in reply to 178232.292
Date: 5/28/2012 9:53:18 AM
Hamburg Albatrosses
Bundesliga
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Second Team:
Korean S. Fighters
Looks like a good start for you. I hope we can catch up, but it doesn't look like that's going to be easy. Good luck to you for the remaining games from the ex-U21 Coach :-)

Winner: 1x Consolation Tournament (U21), 2x Goldene Ananas, 1x Goldene Himbeere, 2x Goldener Erdapfel, 3x Bronze Medal (U21)
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178232.295 in reply to 178232.293
Date: 5/28/2012 10:07:43 AM
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I'm playing what best suits my players...we don't have any shooting guards as you can see and we have an advantage inside against you. And we have good passers. From there the choice wasn't hard.

like 99% of the other teams


If you are reading global english forums, you'd see I'm one of the first who wants look inside weakend. U21 is another story though; flashy hardly means anything if you can't win.

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178232.296 in reply to 178232.294
Date: 5/29/2012 4:37:02 AM
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Good luck to you for the remaining games from the ex-U21 Coach :-)


Thanks Wendell! Next three games are tough, but with victory against Germany in first round everything seems a bit easier. Based on forums from our rivals (France, Greece, Denmark and Estonia) we were underestimated, probably because of our ranking of 48 which can be attributed to our previous U21 coach. We are a bit better this year, but I'd be happy if others will keep underestimating us.

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178232.298 in reply to 178232.297
Date: 5/29/2012 5:51:00 AM
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i saw your big guys and thought: there are stronger than ours.


And that's one of two reasons why I played with three point guards - to deliver the ball to our bigs as efficiently as possible. The other reason is your SF isn't an inside threat, so I could have less ID on SF spot and figured you would play Run&Gun or Push the ball. Motion really surprised me though, as this tactic requires heavy HA, PA and JS on guards and good HA and JS on bigs. I think these skills cannot be brought high enough in three seasons of traning to combat the OD of 14+ which all stronger U21 NTs have. After third 3 in first two-three minutes I was almost sure we were going to win. You also lose a lot of RB power with Motion, so nothing really worked for you.

Of course I wish you all the best in next games, not only as a sports gesture, but also because we can profit from your wins...

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178232.299 in reply to 178232.298
Date: 5/29/2012 12:53:35 PM
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And that's one of two reasons why I played with three point guards - to deliver the ball to our bigs as efficiently as possible. ...I figured you would play Run&Gun or Push the ball.

Motion really surprised me though, as this tactic requires heavy HA, PA and JS on guards and good HA and JS on bigs. I think these skills cannot be brought high enough in three seasons of traning to combat the OD of 14+ which all stronger U21 NTs have. After third 3 in first two-three minutes I was almost sure we were going to win. You also lose a lot of RB power with Motion, so nothing really worked for you.

Hmm, müsste man glatt mal drüber nachdenken ob das bei Motion so ist wie er es zu wissen glaubt. Er scheint sich da ja einigermassen sicher zu sein. Also Motion deutlich schlechter in der Situation als PtB oder RnG z.B.

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178232.300 in reply to 178232.291
Date: 6/4/2012 11:43:03 AM
Hamburg Albatrosses
Bundesliga
Overall Posts Rated:
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Second Team:
Korean S. Fighters
So, mit etwas Verspätung jetzt also auch dein erster Sieg als U21-Coach. Glückwunsch - und für die nächsten (schwereren) Spiele viel Erfolg und ein glückliches Händchen bei der Taktikauswahl :-)

Winner: 1x Consolation Tournament (U21), 2x Goldene Ananas, 1x Goldene Himbeere, 2x Goldener Erdapfel, 3x Bronze Medal (U21)
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178232.301 in reply to 178232.297
Date: 8/12/2012 2:22:03 PM
Hammond Hammers
III.13
Overall Posts Rated:
137137
So, mal sehen ob ich hier richtig bin. Was fuer ne OD braucht denn ein Guard so, um in die U21 zu kommen? Richtwertmaessig. Ich binn dabei nen SG fuer Liga III zu formen, aber danach kann der immer noch zur 1 oder 2 trainiert werden.

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178232.302 in reply to 178232.301
Date: 8/12/2012 2:45:48 PM
Die kupfernen Kerle
II.4
Overall Posts Rated:
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Second Team:
Die Kupferchen
Ich grätsche hier mal rein.

Der hier: Ismael Frischauf (24899303) sollte ob seines Potenzials für die NT trainiert werden. Hierfür sollte optimalerweise ein Guard in den ersten 1-3 Saisons primär in Centerskills (B-Skills für nen Guard: Zonenwurf, Innenverteidigung, Rebounds und Blocken) trainiert werden. Gerade mit seiner vglw. großen Größe drängt sich dieses Training noch mehr auf. Auch bei einem späteren Verkauf deines Schützlings lässt sich dein Konto weit mehr aufstocken, wenn du nicht nen klassischen Guard der in den Centerskills nix bis wenig kann trainierst.

Für die U21 gibt es eigentlich genug Kandidaten mit Potenzial All-Star bis MVP.

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178232.303 in reply to 178232.301
Date: 8/12/2012 3:13:49 PM
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Richtwert bei einem Guard sind ca 15 Points OD

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