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184241.284 in reply to 184241.282
Date: 5/13/2011 11:01:41 PM
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Yes, there are only a limited number of possession in a game, 48 minutes worth to be exact. Around 80-90 possessions per team in the game, so yes, there's limited possessions. By jacking up more shots that don't hit, you're effectively reducing the number of scoring possessions your team has.


This.

The more points a player prevents, the more possessions are wasted (because possessions in a game are limited).


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Possessions are limited in a game, because the time is limited. There is no question about that. There is never an unlimited amount of possessions in a game of basketball. It's just simply not possible.

Because their are a limited number of possessions, keeping a player to 1-17 is more beneficial to your team than what 0-8 is. that's not to say 0-8 isn't a good job, it just means 1-17 is a better job.

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Date: 5/13/2011 11:05:35 PM
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Thank you. And good night.

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184241.286 in reply to 184241.278
Date: 5/13/2011 11:20:09 PM
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I doubt the game engine is programmed to allow the ball to change hands more than once a second

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184241.287 in reply to 184241.286
Date: 5/13/2011 11:33:11 PM
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Poor Virus. it seems like you vs the world doesn't it? Are these people bullying you for being different? how dare they??! lol

Yo! Yo! D for D best PF in D Aussie BB. D Name is Kye Duffill (10080211), averages nothing but pure amazing! Vote for Duffman!
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184241.288 in reply to 184241.281
Date: 5/13/2011 11:36:35 PM
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I have studied Biomedical Science, Mathematical and Computer Science, and Business at Uni. But I am currently finishing my Law degree.


i gave u a ball because i believe "great minds think alike" .... or .................. we're just crazy lol

Yo! Yo! D for D best PF in D Aussie BB. D Name is Kye Duffill (10080211), averages nothing but pure amazing! Vote for Duffman!
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184241.289 in reply to 184241.282
Date: 5/13/2011 11:58:06 PM
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i know it is a simulation game based on mathematical formulas. but do you reasonably think that the BB's would have made it so that as you said if a player missed his first 10 shots it would be reasonable to think the player would miss the next 10 based on the fact that he missed the first 10. the BB's are pretty smart people, i believe they wouldve put somewhere into the formula, and i dont know how, because lets face it im doing justice. but it seems to me that they wouldve thought of a way to adapt the formula that eventually the player will hit a shot.


Because the simulation is based on mathematical formulas, it inherently involves a large aspect of probability, and thus, extrapolation is inherently a vital aspect of any analysis we conduct. Consequently, if a player makes his opponent miss all 8 attempted shots, it is safe to assume that the following shots are more likely than not to be missed.

I am not saying that if the player misses 8 shots in a row that he will definitely miss the next set of shots. All I am saying is that extrapolation allows to show what is more likely than not to occur. But just to prove my point, check out this player:
http://www.buzzerbeater.com/player/7095293/overview.aspx
This player has missed his last 930 free throws. Now you would argue that the BBs are smart people and would have made the formula so this doesn't happen, but the fact is that the BBs have not done this, and that it is possible to have such a streak. Extrapolation works.

ok so if somehow he misses his first 100 shots and then second 100 shots is it then reasonable to assume that he would then shoot a further 200 shots without making 1. therefore he has gone 0-400. at what point does he then make a shot?

As I said earlier there is always a small margin of error when extrapolating, so it is always plausible the player will make the shot. But consider the example above regarding the missed free throws by that player, after he missed the first 100 we could have easily extrapolated that he would be likely to miss the next 100, and then once he missed 200 shots we could extrapolate that he would miss the next 200 shots, and as you can see, the player has missed 930 free throws in a row.

in some ways i am agreeing with you. in that 0-13 is better that 1-17. however i figure that 12 is where i draw the line being that 5 more shots he is likely to hit a shot or 2. 0-8 simply in my view not as good as 1-17 because the player only has to hit 2 from 9 to have a better shooting perfomance that 1-17, regardless of what he shot before those last 9 shots.

So you draw the line at 12 because you think he is likely to make 2 shots out of 5? Considering he has just missed 12 in a row this is highly unlikely. Consider drawing the line at 8, because the player would have to make 2 shots out of the next 9 attempts to be worse than the 1-17 guy, and considering he is currently 0-8 it is highly unlikely that the following shots will be 2-9.

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184241.290 in reply to 184241.284
Date: 5/14/2011 12:00:46 AM
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Possessions are limited in a game, because the time is limited. There is no question about that. There is never an unlimited amount of possessions in a game of basketball. It's just simply not possible.

Because their are a limited number of possessions, keeping a player to 1-17 is more beneficial to your team than what 0-8 is. that's not to say 0-8 isn't a good job, it just means 1-17 is a better job.

Sorry but that is simply wrong. Time is limited (even though it really isn't because theoretically you can have an unlimited number of overtimes), but the possessions are not limited. I refer you back to my example with the numbers. Are you saying there is a limited amount of numbers between 1 and 3? There is an unlimited number of numbers between any 2 numbers, just like there is an unlimited number of potential possessions between any increment of time.

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184241.291 in reply to 184241.286
Date: 5/14/2011 12:01:11 AM
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I doubt the game engine is programmed to allow the ball to change hands more than once a second :P


Based on...? :P

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184241.292 in reply to 184241.288
Date: 5/14/2011 12:01:51 AM
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haha we are probably crazy :P

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184241.293 in reply to 184241.281
Date: 5/14/2011 12:13:09 AM
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But I am currently finishing my Law degree.


GET OUT NOW BEFORE IT'S TOO LATE

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Date: 5/14/2011 12:27:42 AM
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But I am currently finishing my Law degree.


GET OUT NOW BEFORE IT'S TOO LATE


haha nah it's awesome! :P

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