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322487.28 in reply to 322487.22
Date: 02/06/2024 05:57:46
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Sorry to bring this on again, but I have a doubt

Is the formula of the +1 affected by the position on the court or is it only skill based? I mean, could a PG be selected to be that player before your C?
Does this work the same way with outside and inside +1?

Thanks.

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Date: 02/06/2024 06:55:16
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talking from experience of others' - i've been told that even your C can be the +1 defender in OUTSIDE BOX. crazy stuff haha

Yes, because if you place an all defense player on C, he will be the best solution.
When I did the tests with both boxes, Haek was always the +1 defender. He had OD 18, ID 18 and SB 18, so he was option 1, no matter which box and which position.

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322487.31 in reply to 322487.30
Date: 02/06/2024 08:17:05
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Than you so much Alonso and Nachtmahr.

So if the +1 is decided only by skills, that means (as BB-Justin said I think) the best defensive player will be selected regarding his position on court, but the formula will change a bit between if you selected outside +1 or inside +1, having more impact on the first one the OD, and ID on the second one.
To sum up, you only choose who you want to take the most defensive responsability, right? It doesn't matter if the oposing team play inside or outside, the GE will choose "the best offensive" player in that tactic and your job is to choose which +1 is going to defend him (in case you clearly have different build defensive players).

Maybe I still don't comprehend it 100%...

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322487.32 in reply to 322487.31
Date: 02/06/2024 17:12:05
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I am not sure if you got that as well, but I'm gonna add it just in case - you are right that it doesn't matter which tactic your opponent chooses, but inside and outside is not only there to choose which player from your team is going to be +1. It also determines which opponents offensive player that +1 will be guarding.

So to give an example if you choose inside +1 then your +1 defender will guard opponents best inside attacker and when you choose outside +1 your +1 will guard opponents best outside attacker.

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Date: 02/06/2024 17:20:39
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Is that so? I'm not that sure

And another question that popped in my head is... does GS affect in order to choose who is that +1?

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Date: 02/06/2024 18:15:21
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I'm quite sure in that. I have analyzed the data from the games where these tactics were used against me and my own games also.

My best offensive outside player is (47618898) and best inside player is (48008577)

To give you few examples:
(127222643) - In this game Dozet was always defended by (49319904), but when Tikk was not on the floor he was guarded by (49320544). Those are opponent's best inside defenders.
(127613964) (128435676) - Same opponent, but in both of these games he played outside +1. In both games Antony was guarded by opponent's best outside defender and Dozet's shots were defended by different players.

I myself play outside +1 in almost every game and never has my +1 defender(who is this guy (49032540)) guarded opponents inside attackers. And I have played against teams who have those 22IS or even higher monsters.

Just some additional notes about +1 defenses:
Dozet still had 25 shots in this game (127222643), reason is probably that those defenders didn't have high OD. I believe that OD is important in +1 defenses to keep your opponents shots taken low. Of course I played isolation, but still it is a factor.

About GS I'm not sure. Never had a chance to test it.

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Date: 02/07/2024 03:44:05
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Ok, that's great, thank you for the valuable information. That will help me a lot for sure.

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Date: 02/08/2024 04:07:00
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Thank you very much.

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Date: 02/12/2024 12:45:14
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Since matching your best defender with the best attacker makes all the sense, while the rest play a man-to-man defense, why would you ever choose man-to-man over a box?

I.e. wouldn't box defenses completely render man-to-man useless?

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