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256335.267 in reply to 256335.264
Date: 5/28/2014 2:33:55 PM
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My methodology is less scientific than yours hrudey. I basically just look at who I expect to win each of the remaining games. Not really taking into consideration matchup specific issues such as whom matches up best against whom. But I do look at the USA-Offsite team data to help review how good a team is currently.

Its similar to how I develop my team. I have 3 skills I prefer my players to have in general (and its not defense). However, if the market deems it I will buy whatever player makes most sense at the time. Which is why I have 2 centers and a PF I can't seem to get rid of leading my team. I'm pretty plain when it comes to that. The market I concentrate on is too small to be ultra-picky. (And it seems saturated with inside players this season).

I pay as much attention to the economics of a team. Which is probably a big reason why I have never hired a player over 100K yet or paid more than 700K for a player. That will probably change next season.

Anyway, you should look at my first set of predictions lol. My prediction for Silverbacks was way off! Everyone else was pretty close, but the Big 8 was much better than I expected overall.

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256335.268 in reply to 256335.263
Date: 5/28/2014 10:43:28 PM
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Don't worry, hrudey! I'll be back to play you in 6-8 seasons. And by then, I should have the resources to compete!

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256335.269 in reply to 256335.267
Date: 5/28/2014 10:45:08 PM
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Yes, very nice write up. But just so you know, one or two 100k+ players can be quite useful in this league (like in the 120k-150k range). They helped me do well last season. However, their salaries made my team go NBBA or bust...

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256335.270 in reply to 256335.269
Date: 5/28/2014 11:28:07 PM
Smallfries
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I used to go after those salary beasts too for promote or bust. I feel like those are the only treat times to have those players.

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256335.271 in reply to 256335.270
Date: 5/29/2014 12:34:18 AM
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sometimes your trainee just gets that good
u gotta keep them :O
big men get to 100K easily
i guess its the 150K+ players where u have to avoid taking

i am 70K below salary level of Clogs
i am one man short of a 8 player rotation
i dont know if u need to go 10 men deep with good stamina on your players

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256335.272 in reply to 256335.271
Date: 5/29/2014 12:42:01 AM
Cassville Yuck
II.1
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I like an 8 or 9 man rotation

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256335.273 in reply to 256335.271
Date: 5/29/2014 12:49:10 AM
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Besides this season, I like to have 10 decent players. Last season I structured my team with a big 3 (top players), 3-4 decent starters, 3-4 capable backups, and 2 scrimmage scrubs. The key is to be able to withstand an injury or two to you starters or backups and still be able to put out a good lineup. If one of the big 3 goes down, then you're pretty much hosed. Also, you can do a decent cup run without sacrificing gameshape.

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256335.274 in reply to 256335.273
Date: 5/29/2014 12:54:34 AM
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i meant 8 playoff rotation
i had 3 35+ olds in the rotation for the cups
sold them as soon as it was over

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256335.275 in reply to 256335.271
Date: 5/29/2014 9:18:21 AM
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sometimes your trainee just gets that good
u gotta keep them :O
big men get to 100K easily
i guess its the 150K+ players where u have to avoid taking

i am 70K below salary level of Clogs
i am one man short of a 8 player rotation
i dont know if u need to go 10 men deep with good stamina on your players


Well, if it makes you feel any better, your top five salaries are about 45k more than mine.

On the 10 deep, I actually prefer 11 when possible, but that's kind of a luxury. I ideally would have a backup for every position that I feel comfortable starting in case of injury or for certain tactics, and then an 11th guy that can fill in at least somewhat as a depth backup. I've always felt that if you have a 7 man rotation and a guy you're relying on for 80 minutes a week gets a 4 week injury, you're screwed for those four weeks plus the couple it takes for the GS to recover (unless you're training GS, at which point you're already on a degenerative team cycle anyhow). With a 10 man rotation, you can still have a pretty strong lineup with the 9 remaining guys and still have depth.

I think more than the salary of the players is that you have to have the right players. All 100k players are not created equal, for sure. To use an example from our league, Smeall on smallfries is being fixed up to be one hell of an all-around player. While I gave Isaiah some ribbing in the past about training all the expensive skills first, I credit him for having the tenacity to stick with paying the guy's salary to play him out of position to finish off his skills. That's a player that's going to be playing at a level far better than his salary might otherwise indicate. In contrast, the old-model U21 three-skilled donkey big man is the type that's always going to play below what his salary is worth, just because the amount of salary paid to go up those last few levels in those three skills is not equivalent to the improvement in the game, and the lack of secondary skills is killer. I don't know if we have anyone with those types of players any longer anyway.

Those of us who were here a few seasons back might remember Delta 9's team when he promoted. That may have been one of the finest examples of a team filled with players who outperformed their salaries, and by the end, he also had higher salaries in total than most of or all of the rest of the league. Needless to say, other than maybe Pappy, none of us were really even speed bumps to him at that point.

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256335.276 in reply to 256335.274
Date: 5/29/2014 9:21:17 AM
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i meant 8 playoff rotation
i had 3 35+ olds in the rotation for the cups
sold them as soon as it was over


I did go with 8 for the end of the season a couple of seasons ago, but that was more because I wasn't promoting (Delta's season) and I needed to swap out a couple of the guys I had anyhow, so I started the process late in the season to take the time to buy replacements intelligently. Which, of course, I properly fouled (or another six letter word starting with f and ending with ed) up and then had to do the same thing last season.

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256335.277 in reply to 256335.275
Date: 5/29/2014 4:53:30 PM
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In Div 5/4 I went with a 12 man roster normally with like 10 decent players.
Then in Div 3 that number fell some as my trainees got more talented.
Now in Div 2 I've been working with 7-8 which is pretty good except for injuries which do tend to mess it up quite a bit.

I will admit that 4-5 good starters and 3-4 good backups is probably the most I will keep going forward. Plus 1 trainee and a couple scrubs.

Optimal "good" players I would think is 7-9 depending on if you are going for a title (at this level probably 15K salary and above for backups).

One thing is to consider how much a starter costs. If you were to buy a 150K salary starter. Would that player offer more than say 100K starter + 50K backup? Food for thought.

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