BuzzerBeater Forums

This is my SF trainee, 21 yo 198 cm MVP

9 4
12 3
6 6
14 13
8 4

IS until end of season, and ID-IS next season (because of other trainees). then OD until 17. My plan is to make a super SF like this

16 5
17 14
17 12
18 16
8 5

Is this a good plan? any advice? thanks :D

I've got a young Sf trainee and since i started training him i read nearly all threads about Sfs.
They are all really great players but i feel some of them have low Fg% for a player you invest a lot of time.

So if i want an offensive Sf instead of a perfect balanced one.How much should be the lowest possible Od and ID.
And highest possible JS, IS even JR.

My trainee is 20yo, 6'5" , mvp
11-5
10-10
12-7
9-10
7-6

I would give a pure "pain in the ass" scoring smallforward a MAXIMUM of ~13-14 OD and 11-12 ID and push JS-JR-IS like crazy. A player like that is perfect if you plan to attack your opponents with different strategies. The problem is that you need a Hall of Famer potential to get JS and JR to +17 imho. If you do that "only" with a MVP he will cap at ~15-16 in JS/JR and you are not using the full potential of all the other skills. (Passing, Rebounding, Blocking)

Despite seeing the point of Nachtmahr, that it can be an advantag to have a specialist with 3 maxed out skills, I am a big believer of well balanced builds. Especially at the SF position.
I am training my 3 SFs (2 actually, one already reached his cap last season) for 9 seasons now and over the course of their career I found out, that opponents had trouble matching them up, although their players had 3-5x times the salary of my trainees. The reason is that they often had one or more big weakness which were exploited by my trainees.
The only "difficulty" that occurs by training well balanced SFs is the huge amount of "out of position training". I used the word "difficulty" because many refer to it as a "problem". I do not see it that way.

1. Good scouting is essential.
2. If you have to train your SF at center find out which offensive strategy works best for him. If you have to train him at PG do the same.
3. Furthermore make sure your other players complement them. (offensively AND defensively)

That is just my experience with SF training. Others surely will oppose and that is fine. There are many ways to be happy. :) If you have further questions feel free to ask.



Last edited by m0nkey at 6/10/2014 7:44:16 AM

Thanks a lot for answer.As you said my initial plan was being flexible with offensive strats.
But now i see it's kinda hard to achieve with mvp potential.I might end up having a good for nothing Sf.
So i should probobly go with a balanced Sf with little tweaks maybe.Like adding 1-2 IS or Jr instead of D's.

This is my SF trainee, 21 yo 198 cm MVP

9 4
12 3
6 6
14 13
8 4

IS until end of season, and ID-IS next season (because of other trainees). then OD until 17. My plan is to make a super SF like this

16 5
17 14
17 12
18 16
8 5

Is this a good plan? any advice? thanks

I assume you will train one on one SF after you finish OD and fit in some passing?

I think he will be a very good player. Will probably take a long time to get that skill set, but you can work on his one on one while at his primary position which is nice. If you go that route, you might not want to train IS all that much longer because it will go up with 1on1 training. But use a training calculator to help you decide.

Last edited by lawrenman at 6/10/2014 9:50:09 AM

The last sentence is the whole issues in a nut shell.. people gien up the right training too go to another slot when you do that it don't help him become better. Because the game pops from other training manager will do speed trianing. Off training is not really needed for sf.

Its a habit of training players. Dedication is the key to dynamic players. we both know player don't need every thing to get better. A sf can do everything. Will speed training/off training help this. Of course...But it not really needed. the weakest link is Sf on BB and Sf is the strongest link on BB when you fully train it correctly .

It the only position that can really do every tactic.



Last edited by Mr. Glass at 6/10/2014 2:08:15 PM

Thus he has both decent guard skills and inside skills. Here is what I have ultimately decided to do with him (Age 28):
14 4
15 17
18 11
16 16
9 4

I have three separate SF that really aren't much different than this (combined, two of them are almost +20 beyond covering the bases other than 16 IS) and they're all bad. I have no good recommendations, though. Other than making him a PF. Which you should definitely do.

One of my guys is much higher JS, JR, HND, DRV (+13 with rounding) and shot 17% and 13% from 3 in previous seasons. Your guy could shoot in the negatives outside of 15 feet if you played him at SF.

Lower ID, higher REB if you absolutely insist on going the SF route.

Stajan>

I sent you a PM...I would like more data on these samples.
Just because someone shoots poorly from a certain range does not make him a poor player.

Also Guadalupe Álvarez would be considered a PF. But ideally I would like to put him in the 3 hole. I mean I don't think he would play as a PF because I am certain I could find more economically feasible players for that spot.

Getting the OD up to 15 would open the possibilities to him. That's the key to me. I can live with a guy who can't shoot from outside when he can absolutely crush on the interior from the 3 hole.