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Hi guys , what kind of Small Forward do you like best?

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121568.23 in reply to 121568.22
Date: 12/11/2009 3:08:53 PM
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After u produce the best SF on the game then we all should listen to u, even if i feel that DR is over rated

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Date: 12/11/2009 3:18:59 PM
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After u produce the best SF on the game then we all should listen to u, even if i feel that DR is over rated


Maybe I do over-rate driving but you can't beat having a skill that is basically for free (the salary contribution is pretty minimal). The only thing it costs is training time... And while Joseph Ka has showed that driving contributes basically nothing to the game ratings, it does not mean it contributes nothing at all to your performance. ;-)

Going forward, my SFs will have pretty much this skill distrbution, even though Wendon is not really like this. Maybe they will have a touch less driving - just for you.

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I am not saying that driving is useless, but 5-6-7 max, and for my SF 4 will be the max that i will train him. PA for me after my small studies on the game shows that is very important for every position, but anyway i will consider training those after his primary skills will be on the lvl that actually help my team to win games

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Date: 12/11/2009 5:31:25 PM
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My thoughts exactly.

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Date: 12/11/2009 7:34:00 PM
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The subject about driving is indeed very interesting. Many people dismiss it but then again others like it alot. I know for a fact that one of this years b3 finalists rates driving quite high. It would be interested to see what other experienced managers think about this.

As for SF's. I personally like the balanced/outside SF's. Outside defense is more important then inside defese and you want as much as you can get from both. Jump shot you want as much as you can get. Inside shot I dont like that much for SF. Imho 7-10 IS is enough for SF. I like rebounding since SF's contributing from rebounding is not bad at all so 7 is the very very least imho and you'd want more usually. JR 10-11 max. DR 11+. HN 8+. And yeah dont care about SB at all.
Thats my opinion after reading everything I have ever found on the subject and discussing it with many expereinced managers but I admit I might be way off.


Edit: Forgot passing which I want to be around 10.

Last edited by Captain Awesome at 12/11/2009 7:37:35 PM

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Date: 12/11/2009 7:56:56 PM
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I used to think driving was important - now I am not so sure - especially after studies like the one done by Joseph Ka. But I go back to the fact that driving costs you nothing salary wise. Not to mention that it trains fairly quickly. So if you want to be cost efficient, why wouldn't you train some driving?

Shot blocking I think is different. Not only is it one of the weakest skills but it also costs you salary wise.

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Date: 12/11/2009 7:57:25 PM
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It totally depends on the tactics you want to play, if you like to attack inside, take a inside attacker. if you want to defend inside, a inside defender is ideal. The same goes for outside, if you'd like to play man2man, you might go for a wellrounded defender (which are quite rare), and with a push the ball for a wellrounded attacker

This works the same for all tactics, however having 9 different SF's is undoable. That's why I prefer to have one inside and one outside SF. However they do have to be a bit allround. For instance this guy would (in my opinion) make a great SF with inside tactics, but a poor one with outside tactics:

Jump Shot: sensational Jump Range: awful
Outside Def.: mediocre Handling: strong
Driving: sensational Passing: respectable
Inside Shot: tremendous Inside Def.: sensational
Rebounding: sensational Shot Blocking: respectable
Stamina: respectable Free Throw: respectable

Experience: mediocre



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Date: 12/11/2009 8:02:34 PM
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For instance this guy would (in my opinion) make a great SF with inside tactics, but a poor one with outside tactics:

Jump Shot: sensational Jump Range: awful
Outside Def.: mediocre Handling: strong
Driving: sensational Passing: respectable
Inside Shot: tremendous Inside Def.: sensational
Rebounding: sensational Shot Blocking: respectable
Stamina: respectable Free Throw: respectable

Experience: mediocre



That guy is a PF not a SF. With his outside d, playing him at SF is a recipe to get burned on defense. And even with an inside tactic, I would prefer more handling, passing and jump range.

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Date: 12/11/2009 8:14:15 PM
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I believe that OD is more important then ID,the ideal for me is 13OD 11 of ID considering that SF training is really tough

I think peoplle are not giving much credit for IS,if you want your player to do well in any tactic you have to train IS at least to 10,driving for me is really secondary ,do all the outside training and then ,if you will ,give some driving training but 9 is good enough for me,especially if you team has good passers

PA and RB for me should stay at 10 or 11,they are very usefull

I think thats it,dont need to mention JS and SB the first one very important, minimum 12 ,the other dont need training

for me the question for the trainers should be on the ofensive side,give more JS/JR or IS and for me thats personal




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Date: 12/11/2009 9:28:54 PM
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Huang Rugui (10841727) Small Forward


Weekly salary: $ 5 811

DMI: 48200
Age: 18
Height: 6'4" / 193 cm
Potential: superstar
Game Shape: strong
Jump Shot: strong Jump Range: respectable
Outside Def.: mediocre Handling: proficient ↑
Driving: average ↑ Passing: pitiful
Inside Shot: atrocious Inside Def.: strong
Rebounding: respectable Shot Blocking: awful
Stamina: average Free Throw: mediocre

Experience: atrocious

my SMALL forward, how do u like him?


First of all Driving is not useless, It effects how open you are when you shoot. A person like Lebron has great driving, he is not the best shooter what so ever, but he knows how to take easy open shots by driving and becoming open, which makes him a great scorer. One on One, is great training, and can help train a multitude of players. I would bet that Inside Shot, and Shot blocking are the least important skills to train unless your SF is inside orientated. However, I believe the best Small forward is weighted towards being outside oriented.

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