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184241.219 in reply to 184241.215
Date: 5/13/2011 11:15:38 AM
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what you guys are thinking is the rate by accounting the number of attempts. what u got wrong is u assume that who ever can't score with 8 attempts will get 1 in if he attempts 17. thats not correct. if the defense is good, even if the opponent tried 17 attempts, he wouldnt score a single point. so the rate of 0/8 <> 1/17. if u do the maths, the rate of 0/8 is not even possible hahaha.

Last edited by datzilla at 5/13/2011 11:15:52 AM

Yo! Yo! D for D best PF in D Aussie BB. D Name is Kye Duffill (10080211), averages nothing but pure amazing! Vote for Duffman!
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184241.220 in reply to 184241.216
Date: 5/13/2011 11:16:56 AM
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Oh and i've removed my post (and its reply on the MVP thread). I was robbed i tell you, robbed! *insert various random spam here* better? :P

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184241.221 in reply to 184241.219
Date: 5/13/2011 11:17:43 AM
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WTH?

hahah go to sleep mate, that was jibberish

"the labor party cant even spell surplus, let alone deliver one"
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184241.222 in reply to 184241.221
Date: 5/13/2011 11:21:07 AM
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time to sleep haha, i say the 0/8 attempt is better hehe. its always better to keep ur opponent scoreless. i am with virus on this 1.

Last edited by datzilla at 5/13/2011 11:24:50 AM

Yo! Yo! D for D best PF in D Aussie BB. D Name is Kye Duffill (10080211), averages nothing but pure amazing! Vote for Duffman!
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Date: 5/13/2011 12:02:25 PM
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I don't think this can be taken out of context. It needs to be applied in context in order to be "better or worse".

If a player shoots 1-17, yet his team mates are shooting well, then it's more beneficial than 0-8 and vice versa.

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Date: 5/13/2011 12:12:40 PM
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If there were unlimited shots taken, then it wouldn't matter how many shots he missed, keeping a guy -08 will be better than 1-17 (purely because he scores 0 points compared to 2). But given there are only a limited number of shots available in a game, keeping someone to 1-17 shooting is more beneficial than 0-8, purely because if he shoots it 17 times, that's 9 shots he has missed that someone else could've taken. Or, as iwen pointed out, that's 9 more 'empty' possessions.

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Date: 5/13/2011 12:26:34 PM
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smeltz is amazed at the level of interest in yet another 3 MVP pts he seemingly gets whenever the SAS win ... lol


"the labor party cant even spell surplus, let alone deliver one"
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Date: 5/13/2011 5:54:13 PM
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Couldnt have worded it better.

Naker and datzilla, you guys are very odd people. =P
I think matt1986 would make the abbl before either of you guys hahha.. I kidd!

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Date: 5/13/2011 6:29:53 PM
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But given there are only a limited number of shots available in a game, keeping someone to 1-17 shooting is more beneficial than 0-8, purely because if he shoots it 17 times, that's 9 shots he has missed that someone else could've taken. Or, as iwen pointed out, that's 9 more 'empty' possessions.


firstly, its 1-12 attempts not 17.

But, if those 9 shots were given to the player that can't hit 0 out of 8 attempts would it be different? he may miss that 9 shots as well. We can't ASSUME that a player that has blocked out 8 shots can't block out another 9 shots.

Last edited by datzilla at 5/13/2011 6:52:39 PM

Yo! Yo! D for D best PF in D Aussie BB. D Name is Kye Duffill (10080211), averages nothing but pure amazing! Vote for Duffman!
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Date: 5/13/2011 7:10:24 PM
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You also can't assume that he's going to miss them

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Date: 5/13/2011 7:12:24 PM
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No we can't assume.

But we can say that if a defender kept 2 players 1-17 from the field in a game, that's more impressive than if they kept an opponent 0-8, purely because they stopped more shots (16 stops vs 8), even if he scored "2" points. We don't need to assume anything, Szad stopped 16 shots. Smeltz stopped 8. Over the course of a game, 16 stops is more valuable than 8.

Looking at the play by play Zinhao (poor guy) scored his only bucket from an alley-oop.

Again, the MVP points don't need to be changed since JW ain't gonna appeal a teammate's MVP award lol...

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