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From: docend24

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Date: 11/28/2011 8:17:28 AM
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http://www.buzzerbeater.com/team/117785/transferhistory.a...

Just pathetic sabotage situation.

I would like to know why sabotage is allowed, Colombia is suffering it with Candelo, one of our best centers.

This team went bankruptcy and invested all his money to buy Candelo and 3-4 more players to keep the sabotage which consist in playing him 3 games a week(also in SC) and make his GS go down.

It's pathetic this things are allowed, it can take another season to go bankruptcy.

PD: Anyway, i suppose BB's are ''really busy'', since they never make changes
related to NT stuff.


It's quite funny that this comes from a spanish user. Without prompt reactuon one spanish team would sabotagfe Hána and there would nothing of him now.

Buying a star and playing him is completely legal, quite normal approach among inexperienced users. If you fear that woiuld damage chances of respective NT then 1) you should think twice before creating a player whose salary is not sustainable so he is bound to become a jorneyman 2) it's up to community to intervene and find a better place for him and outbid non-desirable bidders - you may argue some communities are too small to do that, then they are probably too small to be deliberately sabotage as well

From: docend24

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Date: 11/28/2011 8:23:27 AM
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He payed 1,1mil for him, when he first bought the player. How is that a high price for patriots?


I'm not talking about that, i'm suggesting to don't allow sabotage in BB.

I don't know if any colombian team tried to buy him (not necessary to say i adviced them to buy him), but it doesn't matter if a team from Colombia tried to buy him, since he is the owner of the player and will have enough money to keep raising the price if anyone bids.

Sabotage is cerainly not allowed. Nor is forcing other managers to play your way.

That's why colombian players can come into the game only in colombian teams. To get somewhere else they have to go through TL. So excuses like the owner can outbid anyone* are amusing.

* which is surely not always true, he doesn't get 100% back, money may not be available immediately because of the time differnce between servers etc.

From: docend24

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Date: 11/28/2011 8:29:08 AM
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Altough Iceland will play Colombia this season, he cannot know that last season when he bought him. As well, this week, this player has strong GS, it's lucky yes, but proves there is no sabotage here.

If this player can have low GS sometimes I do think like grullo that's because he doesn't know how to play and in no way a sabotage.

Everybody can buy anobody and manage him like he wants as long as there is no clear sabotage and I can't see a clear sabotage here.


So which manager goes bankrupcy, doing the same lineup every match(including SC), logging most of the days and after that he saw he is doing so bad on the economy he buys again the same player just to do the same again?

It's not hard to see it's a ghost team.

But ok, we can do like we don't see nothing wrong and let it go...

And after we are surprised a BB cheats...

Who are you kidding? Such a manager may lost interest in a game, then regained it; may just wanted to stay in touch with his BB buddies or (and I even kind of do that) calls season a quit and tries not to influence results of others, avoiding giving one team an advantage over another.

I don't care what he is really like in this case. I just found the "I know how he thinks at all and this shouldn't be allowed because I think so" approach far more worrying than downside effects of freedom of choice how to paly this game when those are easy to prevent by decent work of NT people.

From: Marot

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Date: 11/28/2011 8:40:40 PM
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He payed 1,1mil for him, when he first bought the player. How is that a high price for patriots?


I'm not talking about that, i'm suggesting to don't allow sabotage in BB.

I don't know if any colombian team tried to buy him (not necessary to say i adviced them to buy him), but it doesn't matter if a team from Colombia tried to buy him, since he is the owner of the player and will have enough money to keep raising the price if anyone bids.


Sabotage is cerainly not allowed. Nor is forcing other managers to play your way.

That's why colombian players can come into the game only in colombian teams. To get somewhere else they have to go through TL. So excuses like the owner can outbid anyone* are amusing.

* which is surely not always true, he doesn't get 100% back, money may not be available immediately because of the time differnce between servers etc.


Sabotage it's 100% legal, the rules doesn't it's ilegal, that's why i'm complaining this should be changed to stop this kind of moves.

In Spain we never did things like this(but it's legal), I can assure you that there are lot of managers that every week leave the game, is really easy to tell them that before they leave they buy 1 center from an important opponent to start annoying them.

Maybe in the next elections a nt coach could try to have a list of 20-30 teams(but in big countries it would be easy to be +50) that before going inactive, they try to sabotage other nt players, ;)


So some NT's use farms, others NT's can use sabotage to try to benefit, why not? If it's legal, haha ¡


Last edited by Marot at 11/28/2011 8:41:50 PM

From: Marot

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Date: 11/28/2011 8:53:08 PM
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Altough Iceland will play Colombia this season, he cannot know that last season when he bought him. As well, this week, this player has strong GS, it's lucky yes, but proves there is no sabotage here.

If this player can have low GS sometimes I do think like grullo that's because he doesn't know how to play and in no way a sabotage.

Everybody can buy anobody and manage him like he wants as long as there is no clear sabotage and I can't see a clear sabotage here.


So which manager goes bankrupcy, doing the same lineup every match(including SC), logging most of the days and after that he saw he is doing so bad on the economy he buys again the same player just to do the same again?

It's not hard to see it's a ghost team.

But ok, we can do like we don't see nothing wrong and let it go...

And after we are surprised a BB cheats...

Who are you kidding? Such a manager may lost interest in a game, then regained it; may just wanted to stay in touch with his BB buddies or (and I even kind of do that) calls season a quit and tries not to influence results of others, avoiding giving one team an advantage over another.

I don't care what he is really like in this case. I just found the "I know how he thinks at all and this shouldn't be allowed because I think so" approach far more worrying than downside effects of freedom of choice how to paly this game when those are easy to prevent by decent work of NT people.


http://fc05.deviantart.net/fs70/f/2011/204/b/6/notbad_de_...

From: docend24

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Date: 11/28/2011 11:42:46 PM
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He payed 1,1mil for him, when he first bought the player. How is that a high price for patriots?


I'm not talking about that, i'm suggesting to don't allow sabotage in BB.

I don't know if any colombian team tried to buy him (not necessary to say i adviced them to buy him), but it doesn't matter if a team from Colombia tried to buy him, since he is the owner of the player and will have enough money to keep raising the price if anyone bids.


Sabotage is cerainly not allowed. Nor is forcing other managers to play your way.

That's why colombian players can come into the game only in colombian teams. To get somewhere else they have to go through TL. So excuses like the owner can outbid anyone* are amusing.

* which is surely not always true, he doesn't get 100% back, money may not be available immediately because of the time differnce between servers etc.


Sabotage it's 100% legal, the rules doesn't it's ilegal, that's why i'm complaining this should be changed to stop this kind of moves.

In Spain we never did things like this(but it's legal), I can assure you that there are lot of managers that every week leave the game, is really easy to tell them that before they leave they buy 1 center from an important opponent to start annoying them.

Maybe in the next elections a nt coach could try to have a list of 20-30 teams(but in big countries it would be easy to be +50) that before going inactive, they try to sabotage other nt players, ;)


So some NT's use farms, others NT's can use sabotage to try to benefit, why not? If it's legal, haha ¡

You did (at least tried) sabotage others in Spain. By "you" I mean spanish users as a whole.

LOL, it is aeys to say them, hard to actually buy someone relevant. There have to be a seller first.

BBs stated what would be considered sabotage and that they would act accordingly. No matter how you would try to distort that.

To the last sentence - obviously you jsut need excuses, so you blame other NTs that they do well because do this or that. So far only attempt to sabotage directed at us was from Spain. So go figure...

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Date: 11/29/2011 6:59:00 AM
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to remember for all, we don't like pillorys in the public forum and i know we should have act even earlier even when they are lot of reasonable voices.

If you expect NT sabotage report it through mail, and talk here about "solutions" not about cases.

Also it is forbidden, to talk about cases where you expect nt sabotage in the past or about fine you get through insulting the forum rules mentioned before.

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