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Clarification of "New Breed"

After searching those teams currently listed as New Breeders (20 teams) only 10 it seems are true breeders. Given that the premise of this thread was to showcase the cream of Aussie teams rising to the top---keeping an eye on their progress while learning a bit about them---it seems counter-productive to include "old" breeders. However, in the spirit of this season's thread we will make an exception for this season. Although, next season's thread will only admit teams under the following criteria:

Teams must be entering a Division II league for the first time in their history to qualify as a New Breeder.

Here are the true lists for Season 21:


New Breeders

Awesome^.- (took 9 seasons)
Skyhook Dreamers (took 11 seasons)
Gisborne Gladiators (took 12 seasons)
The Tornado (took 13 seasons)
Fresh Princes (took 11 seasons)
UWA Panthers (7 seasons)
Puffy_Inch (6 seasons)
Raz0rbacks (8 seasons)
Moorditj Magick (8 seasons)
Sonic Booms (7 seasons)

Old Breeders

Guanzang Goldfish (2nd time in Div II)
Baxter Bogans (2nd time in Div II)
The Meateors (3rd time in Div II)
Home Axis (2nd time in Div II)
Stone Slashers (2nd time in Div II)
Coalcliff Clippers (2nd time in Div II)
The Players (2nd time in Div II)
Flaming Ramzays (2nd time in Div II)
Skjim (2nd time in Div II)
Hopelessly Addicted (2nd time in Div II)


Where to from here?

When Season 21 is officially completed (including playoffs), I will post a poll for managers to vote on which team deserves the inaugural New Breeders Trophy.

You may have noticed in the change of name from Urmummas a Breeder Trophy. After a little reasearch it turns out that while the Urmummas have done an excellent job getting to the ABBL, their rise is not the benchmark. Sorry, Urmumma, but I need to clarify the Breeders now in preparation for future seasons.

It was interesting to go through the current ABBL teams, most of whom have been there for some time, and discover their route to Australia's highest Division. Three teams: Monkey Business, Whitebeard and Koopasaurus are the only three teams in Australia to start in Div IV and climb to the ABBL without ever taking a step backwards and remain there. Impressive and all three deserve to have the trophy named after them. But then again, other ABBL teams who have always been in the ABBL could be labelled impressive. Therefore, The New Breeders Trophy will do.

So, I apologise for this long-winded post but given that I want to keep this thread going in future seasons I thought it necessary to clarify things now.

So, Fishy & Co can all piss off now! :-P jks


NExt update of Breeders will have two tiers...


Last edited by Mr J at 11/2/2012 10:08:38 AM

3->2->ABBL and winning the cup in the process trumps them all
but im just bragging ;)

just letting you know my team was made season 13 tho i didnt get to play a single game and until season 14 started :)

3->2->ABBL and winning the cup in the process trumps them all :P
but im just bragging ;)

You are an excellent manager, Urmumma, but the three mentioned didn't 'take a step backwards' on their journey from IV to ABBL.

You:

S17: Div III
S18: Div II
S19: Div III
S20: Div II
S21: ABBL

Very impressive but you went backwards to go forwards. The three mentioned didn't. Of course, you went bounce-bounce-bounce which is unequalled to my knowledge.



@Sundae...

Oops. lol

Hahah its all fun and games mate

Coming soon...

Regular season wrap-up of teams including finals contenders as well as a prelude to the inaugural The New Breeders Trophy poll...

check this nuts stuff in my league

Total Salaries in Season 21
# Team Players Salary Tot Average Std Dev.
01. Home Axis (196319) 12 $ 919 289 $ 76 607 $ 71 441
02. Stone Slashers (196146) 11 $ 598 423 $ 54 402 $ 61 477
03. Vis Maior (38640) 12 $ 524 000 $ 43 667 $ 42 941
04. Guanzheng Goldfish (38642) 13 $ 481 332 $ 37 026 $ 30 982
05. North Carlton Cavaliers (196171) 11 $ 430 992 $ 39 181 $ 43 141
06. Melbourne Redbacks (38797) 10 $ 403 420 $ 40 342 $ 28 652
07. Nevada Saucers (196255) 13 $ 339 030 $ 26 079 $ 24 387
08. High School Drop-outs (38631) 10 $ 318 718 $ 31 872 $ 40 532
09. UWA Panthers (196574) 8 $ 312 079 $ 39 010 $ 46 983
10. BrisvegasSpurs (38615) 10 $ 305 874 $ 30 587 $ 42 013
11. Mmmm Donuts (38725) 8 $ 296 328 $ 37 041 $ 45 590
12. puffy_jnch (38909) 11 $ 266 795 $ 24 254 $ 33 923
13. peaceNroll (196596) 10 $ 226 676 $ 22 668 $ 22 570
14. Coin Collectors (196246) 11 $ 213 894 $ 19 445 $ 17 940
15. Glenelg Tigers (38818) 11 $ 180 247 $ 16 386 $ 28 824
16. The Dons (38877) 4 $ 27 248 $ 6 812 $ 3 769

HAX with the $920k roster

any1 want 2 name the new breed trophy after him right away?

Already been up before so doesn't qualify. Sorry hax

920k or not he will lose by default. Cos he has Matty "snake eyes" Mottram.

how about the "Bryce Gibbs I just buy cups" cup?

Season 21 New Breeders' Wrap-up!

Well, Season 21 is done and dusted with only draftees and MVPs to come before we enter Season 22.

This was the first season where the New Breed were monitored as they entered the 2nd tier level of Australian Basketball in BB. And what an impression they made. While there was some debate throughout the season as to who was 'entitled' to be labeled a 'New Breeder' the end results (in terms of performances) for those teams involved only highlighted the two groups that existed beneath that term. So much so that one must separate them.

The Old Breeders:

1. Guanzheng Goldfish (21-1) Champions of II.2
2. Home Axis (18-4) GF runners-up in Div II.2
3. Stone Slashers (15-7) made SF in II.2
4. The Players (15-7) made SF in Div II.3
5. Baxter Bogans (14-8) made QF in Div II.4
6. Hopelessly Addicted (13-9) made QF in Div II.3
7. The Meateors (12-10) made QF in DIv II.1
8. Skjim (11-11)
9. Coalcliff Clippers (8-14)
10. Flaming Ramzays (8-14)


The New Breeders:

1. Awesome^.- (19-3) Champions of Div II.3
2. Moorditj Magick (13-9) made QF in Div II.4
3. UWA Panthers (10-12) made QF in Div II.2
4. Gisborne Gladiators (10-12)
5. Skyhook Dreamers (10-12)
6. Puffy_Inch (7-15)
7. Raz0rbacks (7-15)
8. The Tornado (6-16)
9. Sonic Boom (6-16)
10. Fresh Princes (4-18)


Firstly, the Old Breeders Award which will---from this point forward---be referred to as the 'Big Fish in a Smaller Pond Award' after the Big Fishy became Champions of Div II.2 by defeating the $900k+ roster of Home Axis. Such a win, against all odds, needs to be recognised. More so, his 21-1 regular season record (better than all other returning Div II teams) was the highest. He is also now returning to the ABBL.

Congratulations to the Big Fish and his Guanzheng Goldfish, the inaugural winners of the Big Fish in a Smaller Pond Award.

SPECIAL MENTION: to Axis123 and his team, Home Axis, who were 5 points away from returning to the ABBL.


Secondly, the New Breeders Award which will---from this point forward---be referred to as the 'The Awesome Award' after Sundae09 and his team, Awesome^.- became Champions of Div II.3. What made this feat so impressive as Awesome^.- becomes the 4th team (after Monkey Business, Koopasaurus and Whitebeard) to make the ABBL without ever 'taking a step backwards. That is, he started in Div IV.2, then went to Div III.13, then to Div II.3 and now is going to the big dance. Awesome!

Congratulations to Sundae09 and his Awesome^.-, the inaugural winners of the The Awesome Award.



IMPORTANT: As of Season 22, there will be 2 tables maintained in a new thread labeled 'The New Breed of Div II: Season 22'. It will contain those teams returning to a Div II league (who will be competing for the 'Big Fish in a Smaller Pond Award') and those teams entering Div II for the first time in their teams' history (who will be competing for the 'The Awesome award').

Last edited by Mr J at 11/26/2012 9:08:45 AM