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Expanding LI, not beating it

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278218.15 in reply to 278218.14
Date: 4/5/2016 6:42:53 PM
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It is a fact stated by the BBs and measured coprehensively and extensively by many users that the game engine did not favor inside over outside tactics.
Training patterns though undeniably created an uneven ratio of inside to outside and/or all around type of players and their respective transfer market prices.
GDP and repeated tweaks with JR and BS started to change that too.
Alongside with the introduction of Utopia, where many users opted for skill training and experimenting, i am quite surprised that we're still talking about LI dominance of sorts and training speed with regards to countering LI.

I've been training almost all my seasons in the game(plus all the seasons in Utopia).
This season is the first ever i gave JR training.
I was SHOCKED to see my 24y old, 6'7" trainee, getting THREE pop ups in FOUR JR sessions, with two OD sessions in between.
That is a confirmed >0,50 in JR, per session, at 24y and at SF height!!!!!

There's your (outrageous) training speed(that i saw no forum headlines for). I think we should stop complaining and wanting even more.

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278218.17 in reply to 278218.2
Date: 4/5/2016 11:24:32 PM
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I think if we have this for the defense of a team, this will make the requirements of their offense pretty minimal, unless the opponent sports similar defense

PG/SG OD 20 ID 12+ SB 15+
SF OD 18+ ID 13 SB 16+
PF/C OD 16+ ID 14+ SB 18+


This is essentially what im working towards on my current roster, Im glad to see im not the only person who correlates SB with OD not just ID

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278218.19 in reply to 278218.18
Date: 4/6/2016 1:01:54 AM
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ive been gathering good data on the effects of SB for the last 6 or 7 seasons. My current goal for my starting 5 is something like 14/16/16+/18/18
RB I see good results with fairly low RB with the added SB, 14 is the highest I would take REB in any situation TBH, My current SB big that is on the market rebounds at roughly the same rate or better as a a player with 3 more REB on my team.
I think you easily make the difference up with with a spread like this 8/8/12/12/14.
ID wise im looking for something like 8/8/12/14/14.

My current trainee Carl Baxter started his OD training with 13ID 12 SB and 3 OD, he had no trouble shutting down 50k+ USA d.3 PG's but the jump from 3 to 9 OD has hardly been noticeable on the stat sheet so far.
I think you can have IS/ID and SB on a guard to a certain extent, Him falling into a guard formula rests solely in his JR.
I forget off the top of my head but my Guard trainees will be roughly 16/10/8/14 in big skills while still maintaining PG position for salary.

I honestly would like to build 3 guys who are 12/10/20/10/10/14/12/20/10/20 just to see who can score on them, i wonder if any guys like it have existed before?

Another lie the general public of BB tells people is SB has no elastics, SB training is prob more elastic y then 1v1f.
Training SB will train your IS your REB and your ID as well as your SB. If you alternate SB/ID training you will likely pop one or both every week at young ages. Pretty nice elastic there for not having any elastic effects.




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278218.22 in reply to 278218.20
Date: 4/6/2016 12:28:31 PM
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Its not that I dont think RB doesnt work, I find the added effect above 14 or so to be negligent and would rather put the extra skills somewhere else. I do find it important to win the rebounding battle and rarely will I be out rebounded.
Id rather save the $$ that higher levels of RB cost and put those SP into SB or a scoring skill, IMO anything more then 14 rebounding is just inflation for minimal kick-back skill wise

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278218.24 in reply to 278218.23
Date: 4/6/2016 2:17:39 PM
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I think its hard to compare across divisions and nations, Surely 2.4 Blocks in D1 is not the equivalent of 2.4 blocks in D4 or D3 or even D2 for that matter, By comparison my SF who i train out of position playing at PG mostly, avgs 2.4 blocks a game in USA D.3.
I dont think you train SB just to get blocks, IMO its just another number to help aid in the calculation of him stopping something, helps on every shot type and all situations..why wouldnt I try to exploit this obvious lack of SB in the world.

If your going with my reasoning and your big has higher SB then Reb and is still top 4 country wise in REB stats then I think that reinforces the idea that SB will help make up for that lost REB/Make what you have far better.

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