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Lucky me. I've got the Clogs as my rival again. Guess my fans have decided to hold on to the idea that we our rivals since we split our series back in S28 when I Normal'd the last game of the season while he TIE's to save enthusiasm for the playoffs. Never mind that they clomped all over us with reckless abandon 3 games to 0 in S29.

On the other hand, the last five seasons, the last team to beat me ended up in the NBBA. Which either says something promising for you or reveals something about my ability as a manager. ;)

In terms of bad schedule breaks, I think lathrop got the shaft again - a road TV game against me late in the first part, then a road TV game late in interconference.

Yeah, not very excited to be paired up with you for 2 of the TV games, especially starting off with a road one. Two road TV games doesn't help. I'm excited to be over the demotion hump and hopefully my arena ticket sales rebounds finally. With an expected early season road TV loss, not sure if I can make an accurate assessment.

I most concerned about the game engine and substitution pattern. Having players play 47 mins when an equally skilled player is listed as back up with coach decide will get old fast.

I most concerned about the game engine and substitution pattern. Having players play 47 mins when an equally skilled player is listed as back up with coach decide will get old fast.

Yeah, and unfortunately the only real solution left is to make sure you don't have stamina above average.

I thought they were going to adjust game shape levels to compensate for high stamina guys?

I think they did, but it wasn't a super huge compensation.

Welcome to the league, by the way!

Time to put on my big boy pants for my second visit to DII!

I thought they were going to adjust game shape levels to compensate for high stamina guys?

They are, but it doesn't change that it's a problem.

I also think that adjusting game shape doesn't get to the real issue, which is the substitution logic.

The GE seems to make substitutions when the guy on the floor has become tired to the point that the next guy is an overall better option. As a result, a player with high stamina doesn't sub out because his value doesn't drop enough so that the backup is a better option.

By that logic, most NBA stars would never be subbed out. Really they are subbed out when they need a rest in order to allow them to play at a higher level throughout the remainder of the game. Better to take a few minutes of a lesser player in each of the first three quarters so that the star is still at a very high level at the end of the game.

Also, as anyone who has played an OT game has seen, the GE tends to start OT with all your backups. Very weird.

I also think that adjusting game shape doesn't get to the real issue, which is the substitution logic.

The GE seems to make substitutions when the guy on the floor has become tired to the point that the next guy is an overall better option. As a result, a player with high stamina doesn't sub out because his value doesn't drop enough so that the backup is a better option.

By that logic, most NBA stars would never be subbed out. Really they are subbed out when they need a rest in order to allow them to play at a higher level throughout the remainder of the game. Better to take a few minutes of a lesser player in each of the first three quarters so that the star is still at a very high level at the end of the game.

Yep. Which is why I pretty much hate training stamina, since I like my team to get more balanced minutes. I know last season a couple of times (mostly PL I think, though), when I'd run a slow offense and not get a blowout, Schultz would end up playing 46 or more minutes, and that's with only respectable stamina. Philosophically, I'd love to have good stamina on my players, since every little bit of advantage helps, but still maintain the ability to get at least 12 minutes if not more from my backups. I've suggested several times that there should be some sort of sub priority by position in the lineup - "run them ragged" (keep starters in as much as possible) / "rotate frequently" (aim for 24/24) / "normal rotation" (36/12ish) / "let coach decide" for example. I'd love to be able to have my three big men play in rotation at the four and five, and have the ability to have the guards/SF positions be set up so that I could put specific players in where I want them and make sure I'm not stuck running someone 44 minutes.

Unfortunately, I don't think that's happening any time soon. I'm going to have to decide whether to say "screw it" and finally train stamina now since there's little point in adding more FT training, or do some really ineffective training for Busch/Klein/Cheek to avoid having team training contribute to skill drops for my 33 year olds.

Not a bad idea. I'd also like that break down per position. I've generally had backups that were very heavy on offense or very heavy on defense. Depending on the match-ups I might like to play one more often than the rest of the backups.

Also an option to have your starters sub in/out when the other teams starters are in, as well as the opposite, more of a free wheeling substitution regardless of whose in for the other team.